I do not believe in "nation's interest". That's the thing that made USA an aggressive state. It also means that the minorities' opinions are completely rejected. And yk politicians often like to do what people didn't ask them to do. Democracy is good but the right of choosing the country and freely leaving one must always be there

You largely can choose the provider of this service,

Really? I'm from the Middle East, took me fucking ages to "change the provider".

If you’re in a country with compulsory military service, make yourself interesting for other countries and leave.

Literally not an option for 99% of people.

unless you're a US citizen which requires the extra step of completely renouncing your US citizenship or continue paying US taxes (and therefore supporting the military mostly lol) regardless of where you may live in the world

The current situation is not the best in my opinion. I think people who don't agree with it (like me) should try to change it if possible (peaceful ways are always preferred) instead of adapting to the situation. Though everyone has the right not to fight and not to do anything at all. I'm not saying that fighting the regime you don't like is mandatory

Fighting is the last option. It's needed when a state becomes usurpated and (unpopular opinion) when the current situation creates an objective high risk for the society or its part and waiting for the election is not really an option (such risk can be exhibited as genocide, severe discrimination or just as creation of a good environment for spreading aggressive ideas. All are dangerous). I think the best thing to do in a democratic society is trying to promote ideas which you think are right so people who agree can join you and you all can have a bigger influence on elections and people who aren't sure about their views can also find yours appealing. Leave the enforcement part for people who really know what they're doing and who you're sure are doing it for the higher good

Well at least here in Finland, where we also have conscription, you go to a normal prison and serve six months (or at least it used to be 6months, the same as the shortest conscription time). And I'd like to note that there are several options for conscription. Full military service, unarmed military service (you serve in the military but don't have to touch weapons, you'll be a backline logistics guy or some such) and civil service, which is a bit longer, but you never serve in the military (essentially you work in an old people's home or something for 13 months).

For one, we don't have a "military prison", as that's an actual prison operated by the military. Israel does have them though. Or one with several detention centers.

Secondly, because when conscripts refuse conscription, they're still civilians, as they've not been conscripted.

This one was about a reservist, so it's probably different.

However, going by the stats on...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_military_prison

... I think the numbers might've been in the figures I mentioned (compare the occupancy numbers) and because a lot of the prisoners were prisoners of war, who go to these military prisons.

My point is that while a majority opposition to the war seems unlikely, getting 1/10th, 1/20th, or even 1/50th (=2%) of people refusing like the brave woman in the article, there'd be massive issues for the Israeli prison system.

They already started trying to lift regulations of the conditions in the prisons, so they could shove them even fuller.

Well I'll forgo my dislike of linking this bullshit "news source", so we can all be on the same page, more or less.. No pun intended.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/jails-running-out-of-room-due-to-war-prison-service-warns/

Eighty-four percent of those classified as security prisoners are currently living in an area of under three square meters in size, less than the legal limit, and 3,000 prisoners are now sleeping on mattresses on the floor rather than in beds.

This situation is potentially dangerous and “my biggest fear is that we will lose control over the prisoners in the prisons,” committee chairman MK Zvika Fogel (Otzma Yehudit) warned

They fear the exact problem I'm proposing would be easy-ish to exacerbate.

Last month [Nov -23], in the wake of Hamas’s devastating assault on southern Israel, lawmakers passed a bill allowing the government to declare an “incarceration emergency,” paving the way for the temporary lifting of restrictions on housing conditions for prisoners.

And another article from December:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/knesset-extends-israels-incarceration-emergency-as-prisons-near-capacity/

##Knesset extends Israel’s ‘incarceration emergency’ as prisons near capacity

According to the Israel Prison Service, 19,756 people are currently held in Israeli jails and 'within a week or two, we will reach the maximum capacity for prisoners'

They mention the max capacity as 20,000.

And these must be military prisons as well, since I don't think POW's or "security prisoners" would be held in normal prisons.

He added that some 88% of Palestinian prisoners held for terror offenses — commonly known as security prisoners, are living in spaces of “less than three square meters per prisoner.”

Some genocidal right-wing zionist maniac then went on to say how these conditions are "a summer camp" and how "Hamas killers must be kept in the lowest conditions the law allows".

And this is following a security prisoner getting a beat to death.

Anyway thanks for coming to my TED-rant.

Which aren't equipped to handle a significant enough mass influx of people refusing to participate in a genocide either.

just a bunch of indoctrinated teens

But yes, I absolutely agree.

It’s literally his first sentence…