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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 146 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Sounds like a hell of a lot of money for a CEO who kept insisting that he had to kill 3rd party apps because Reddit still isn't profitable.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 80 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"Reddit isn't profitable because leadership is wildly incompetent, so let's pay them an exorbitant amount of money instead of using that money to properly fix things or make any genuine improvements to anything."

-reddit

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 55 points 8 months ago

It really feels like all corporations do this.

Then the failed CEO gets another CEO gig because they've got "experience".

[–] RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago
  • CEOs anywhere
[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Let's be real, they did it because they didn't want people training AI models without paying them. They didn't give a shit about 3rd party apps.

[–] dan@upvote.au 14 points 8 months ago (4 children)

People that want to train AI models on Reddit content can just scrape the site, or use data from archive sites that archive Reddit content.

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 80 points 8 months ago

IPO = exit liquidity

[–] nyandere@lemmy.ml 57 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

Should have picked Harassment. Selecting Spam does nothing.

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 44 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Spez truly got that little dick energy going on

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 94 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

I take offense to this. I have a little dick. I don't destroy everything for everyone around me while shitting myself violently. I say he has Caillou energy. Arrogant, narcissistic, hideous, an abject freak, a mistake granted legs and will hopefully suffer from a terminal illness.

Fuck Caillou. Fuck Steve Greedy Pig Boy Spez Huffman

[–] odelik@lemmy.today 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The more I see you post, the more I like you.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They lost 93 million on 2023, and paid the CEO more than double that.

Nope - can't think of a single thing they could do to make reddit profitable.

[–] Specal@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

Well kinda but not really, he owns around 4% of Reddit which is where the $193m comes from because of the $5b valuation.

Still, fuck spez

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They paid him just shy of 400k. The stock and options he was given have nothing to do with reported losses. It's all monopoly money until IPO, them we'll see what it's worth.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Paying yourself 190 million in stock options when the company is running at a loss is pretty much blatantly admitting that the company is severely overvalued. My guess is that it will tank 90% once it goes public. If not more, Reddit produces nothing inherent of value and they are really hostile to their users.

[–] JonnyRobbie@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

Honestly, I'm kinda looking forward to the IPO - because it might be the last enshittification straw that breaks the camel's neck that will finally drown reddit for what it has become.

[–] slimarev92@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (6 children)

He wasn't paid that amount. He got 341,000 in cash and the rest was in stocks and options (which will only be worth that much if the company performs well financially). This us place is just like Reddit, nobody ever reads the article.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't really need to perform well financially. He can sell everything as soon as it goes public and retire

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But they never do that. Musk could have been supping margaritas on a man made island with oompa loompas in a private ocean a long time ago

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oompa-loompas are extinct. He needs enough money to clone them from mosquitos trapped in amber.

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[–] CurbsTickle@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (18 children)

Unable to delete so editing instead. Leaving Lemmy.world due to privacy concerns.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This place is also just like reddit in that comments like yours seeking to seem smarter than everyone else by pointing out technicalities in the article as evidence everyone has the wrong idea, without appreciating the full context, and deliberately ignoring the overall point.

Executives paid in stocks and options are completely normal, and those stock options have a value. Moreover, those things were not given to other employees nearly as much as they were given to the CEO.

The actual dollar amount he receives from Reddit is not what matters. What matters is the amount of compensation given to him in comparison to everyone else at Reddit and to other CEOs at other companies, especially when taking his performance into account.

The point is Reddit is effectively giving way too much of its value to one person who has done little to actually make it profitable in all the time he's been there while routinely making mistakes and allowing scandals that have hurt Reddit's reputation.

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[–] TheOneCurly@lemm.ee 25 points 8 months ago

But also Tim Cook's total compensation for 2022 was $99 million and Satya Nadella's 2023 was $48 million. Paying him more than CEOs of actually profitable companies and what amounts to nearly 1/4 of revenue is a pretty big outlier.

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[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 months ago

Hope the IPO is a fucking disaster and Hufflepig goes bankrupt

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

So why does your CEO get paid quarter of a billion a year if they had to hike their APIs unreasonably and kill all 3rd party apps because "reddit wasn't profitable" despite not paying a dime to the mods running their website niether to contribitors, posters nor users ?!?! Reddit is scummier than Uber

[–] servobobo@feddit.nl 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Seems to me the institutional investors aren't interested at the price they're asking.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago

Nah, if you click through to the sign up they ask you for a bunch of personal information on a form hosted on reddit.com and then say "there are a limited number of spots, we will accommodate as many people as we can."

A month from now, 99% of people who fill out that form will be "wait listed" but reddit will have their real name and phone number forever. That's the grift.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

While cutting off reddit apps that are better than the bloated shitshow that is the reddit app

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Most of that money is in stock, so he's doing this to further inflate his stock value

[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What's next? Reddit Coin? NFTs?

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't reddit already have NFTs?

[–] odium@programming.dev 13 points 8 months ago

They also do have a reddit vault for crypto

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[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So my 16 year account with 90k legit comment karma wasnt good enough to be invited?

Now I dont get to early participate in the fomo panic IPO being forced by investors?

I could've made or lost tens of dollars.

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[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 14 points 8 months ago

Should have marked self harm/suicide

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is such an amazing grift. I can't wait until more social media firms start trying to direct-market their stock to their user base.

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

The loss porn will be great material for WallsStreetBets

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

That little "tldr" at the beginning of that text wall makes me feel gross

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