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[–] ProfessorLupinstein@lemmy.world 148 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'll never understand the drive to make other people's lives more miserable. We're given only so many years in this planet. Why not enjoy your life and let others enjoy theirs. These people seemingly can't do either of those.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 62 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I guess it's a good coping mechanism to not face your own problems. Also you always have something to do and you feel involved.

[–] ProfessorLupinstein@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do think it gives them a bigger narrative to be a part of. I suspect that's a big draw too. It's just a really shit narrative.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good point. I think one thing modern world (maybe it was always this way) is kind of lacking providing people with meaning. Sure you are free to search and create your own, which is undoubtfully great. But some people need others people stories to make any sense of that mess we call life.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago
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[–] Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

They carry so much hate inside that it rises up and makes them ugly on the outside. Just look at all of those Neo-Nazis who would never meet the criteria for being Aryan.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate...

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

People often do it for free, but it is also a business model.

[–] niktemadur@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Imagine being such a failure as a human being that they drag others down the hole they've stubbornly dug for themselves.

[–] RocksForBrains@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I have no clue other than it provides a convenient excuse to justify their obstructionist ideals.

If conservatives had it their way, the U.S. would still be just a British colony.

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[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

They are not "flocking to Threads", they were already in Instagram and Facebook. Meta is going to have to pay one day or another for cowering in front of religious countries by allowing homophobia and anti-atheist and anti-freethinker hate-speech in those countries. I had to deal a lot with those and reporting them did nothing, because moderators are sourced locally from those countries, and the laws in those countries are in favor of that kind of hate-speech.

[–] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I know exactly what you mean

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is the answer: they were already there to begin with

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[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lot of people are flocking to Threads, so why wouldn’t these groups?

[–] nuzzlerat@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was hoping they would just enjoy Elon’s twitter but apparently they really need to pollute the common spaces otherwise they get bored

[–] bilb@lem.monster 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll go anywhere they can get attention I suppose

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yup, Nazis don't want a circle jerk chamber. They specifically want to get into general public spaces so they can recruit. This is why you often find Nazi shit in the weirdest places (such as the bronies).

It's why moderation is needed on all social media platforms. It's also why "we don't tolerate Nazis" needs to be a general rule. They are a cancer.

That and they want to make public platforms miserable for the people they hate.

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Exactly. It'll happen with any platform that gains traction. I'm even seeing some fringe groups appearing in some niche Lemmy instances, too. People are going to go to wherever other people are.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago

As if we needed one more reason to defederate.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Facebook and its properties have always been a safe haven for them.

Which is why no one should be federated with threads.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Evil only has to win once or twice to succeed. Good has to win every time. In other words, evil will always try to worm its way into new things, and good will always have to yank them out.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

(please don't prove Lord Darkhelmet right)

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[–] ohmyiv@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

” He went on to instruct his followers to “try and build a big account. I mean, if you get in early, maybe some of you guys can blow up and red pill some people on there.”

Red pill? Did pro-authoritarian, white supremacist, and self-proclaimed incel, Nick Fuentes unironically use "red pill"? lmao What a clown.

[–] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't understand why these incels insist on using a Matrix analogy, red-pill just means "truth" and blue-pill means "ignorance", why do they constantly subvert a basic concept? It's literally the same with "woke", it literally just means what it says, "being attuned to what's going on". Nothing more, but these idiots literally ruin it, if anything they're blue-pilled, going by the Matrix

[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Matrix is also queer af and full of anti-fascist themes. So these incel guys are really barking up the wrong tree in so many ways

[–] S_204@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

They quote the Bible without understanding it either, not surprising they'd do it with a movie.

[–] oneofthemladygoats@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Red pill/blue pill was written as an analogy to the experience of trans people, as well. The ignorance with how they've co-opted the concept runs quite deep.

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[–] ablackcatstail@lemmy.goblackcat.com 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you honestly shocked? They're trying to get in while Threads is overwhelmed by new signups. Hopefully Meta will do the right thing and kick them off but they probably won't.

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The big corps have always had a right wing bias. The corps bend over backwards to cator to these asshats while shitting all over the left.

There's a reason this stuff thrives on places like Facebook and will continue to do so. They also want a platform that has the widest reach.

It's why they want to be in the big sites instead of making their own because they want the rest of us to see their nonsense. There may not end up being a big hate presence on fedi stuff because any right wing instances will be broadly blacklisted either by the instances or by the users.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Businesses love right wingers because they are more active, and engaged, than left wingers. They tend not to run adblock, and click and buy shit from ads. So the average right winger brings in more money than the average left winger.

They also tend to get babied because the left will see someone break the rules and get punished and be all "Yeah, he deserved that", but if a right winger gets held accountable, The entire flock goes full rabid and loses their shit with threats of violence, threats of bombings, protests, employee harassment, etc etc.

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[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Fuck all nazi scum

[–] Penalbatoday@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I believe this is not a feature of Threads itself but of any new social media app or fediverse instance. Nazis are looking for places to spread.

[–] SpaceMonk@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

They ALWAYS do. Communication exists. Do your part and shut them down and send them information for therapy. It’s hilarious. They are losers and will always be unless they get help. There is no intolerance except for the intolerant racists!

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why? They’re more than welcome on Twitter now.

[–] Roundcat@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My theory is even right wingers hate right wing cesspools. Like there is no shortage of far right communities on the internet, but even if you were to be a right leaning person who has no problem with "a little free speech", you are going to be a "cucked liberal" to someone else. Maybe you are a fiscally conservative hypercapitalist but have no problem with the existence of gay and trans people. Maybe your a terf but still care a lot about abortion rights and access to healthcare. Maybe your extremely religious, but believe it is your duty to help the poor and provide charity for those in need. You are going to clash with someone in the same space as you, and there are going to be fewer protections from harassment and less places where you can feel safe in speaking than if you were on a more mainstream space with actual moderation. In the end the platform is going to be hospitable to only the most extreme of conservatives, and its going to become an echochamber of the same opinions, and the same hate and anger.

Second, most of these accounts and groups have the goal of recruitment in mind. You're not going to recruit many people in the far right echochamber because your basically preaching to the choir, so instead you go to the platformers where all the "normies" are at. There you can spread prop, pick easy fights and make your side look strong, and convince ordinary people that what you believe isn't all "that bad", or that it's the liberals/trans people/feminists/jews who are the disgusting or unhinged ones.

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[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

They were told they could now freely make threads and misheard.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flocking? They were already there

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[–] ugh@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Threads is doing a decent job moderating them. They put warnings if you subscribe to someone known to spread misinformation and they remove posts that break TOS.

Obviously the attention seekers are going to run to every platform. I don't think it's fair journalism to say that certain groups are moving to Threads when it's many groups.

"Men are creating thousands of accounts on Threads. Why are the majority of accounts female? Our data analysis explains here!" Is kind of the same clickbait.

I won't argue that racists don't make up a loud percentage of text-based social media, though.

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ONLY until the rest of the users give them the "fuck off you nazi trash" response that they actually deserve.

Hahah, lemme know when they actually do fuck off. Sure, they deserve that response but it's not gonna get rid of them any more than it has anywhere else on the capitalist web.

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[–] MischievousTomato@lemdro.id 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every single platform has them. From anything centralized to decentralized.

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that’s why we fight them everywhere.

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[–] Ducks@ducks.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Please ignore the exploding heads behind the curtains

[–] Lakes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Just called my mom to tell her to stay away. Can't risk her being caught up with it.

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

They're gonna need a lot of mods

[–] wwaxwork@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've also given everyone with an instagram account a Threads account, so they're going to be over run with fitness gurus and diet tea selling vegans any minute now.

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