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Abolition of police and prisons

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Abolish is to flourish! Against the prison industrial complex and for transformative justice.

See Critical Resistance's definitions below:

The Prison Industrial Complex

The prison industrial complex (PIC) is a term we use to describe the overlapping interests of government and industry that use surveillance, policing, and imprisonment as solutions to economic, social and political problems.

Through its reach and impact, the PIC helps and maintains the authority of people who get their power through racial, economic and other privileges. There are many ways this power is collected and maintained through the PIC, including creating mass media images that keep alive stereotypes of people of color, poor people, queer people, immigrants, youth, and other oppressed communities as criminal, delinquent, or deviant. This power is also maintained by earning huge profits for private companies that deal with prisons and police forces; helping earn political gains for "tough on crime" politicians; increasing the influence of prison guard and police unions; and eliminating social and political dissent by oppressed communities that make demands for self-determination and reorganization of power in the US.

Abolition

PIC abolition is a political vision with the goal of eliminating imprisonment, policing, and surveillance and creating lasting alternatives to punishment and imprisonment.

From where we are now, sometimes we can't really imagine what abolition is going to look like. Abolition isn't just about getting rid of buildings full of cages. It's also about undoing the society we live in because the PIC both feeds on and maintains oppression and inequalities through punishment, violence, and controls millions of people. Because the PIC is not an isolated system, abolition is a broad strategy. An abolitionist vision means that we must build models today that can represent how we want to live in the future. It means developing practical strategies for taking small steps that move us toward making our dreams real and that lead us all to believe that things really could be different. It means living this vision in our daily lives.

Abolition is both a practical organizing tool and a long-term goal.

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[–] jadero 62 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I remember a science fiction short story published in OMNI magazine that considered the implications of deciding that the ova was the actual seat of life and the soul. It couldn't be sperm, because millions were discarded in every successful conception.

The end result was that menstruation itself was criminalized, so that evidence of menstruation had to be accompanied by evidence that all possible measures were taken to get pregnant.

Sometimes I hate it when science fiction turns out to be a prediction.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you happen to remember the name of the story?

[–] jadero 17 points 9 months ago

I almost didn't post because I knew someone would ask.

Sorry, no I don't remember. I started going through an index to see if something jumped out, but nothing did.

[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago

I love it when someone the post is about shows up and declares themselves.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 52 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are crimes where treating the perpetrator with appropriate dignity, respect and fairness is more about living up to our own standards than them deserving it.

It's fine to not like the worst people you can think of, but we should be able to say we treated them fairly, despite our feelings.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago

Fucking exactly.

It isn't about what they did, it's about a fair, equitable, and just system being in place for everyone because that's what we should be.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

$20 says this didn't change their mind

[–] Bunnylux@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No one deserves state execution. No one includes child predators.

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

As much as I wish other specific people weren't on the planet anymore, things would be a lot better if governments couldn't give themselves permission to kill people.

[–] xor@infosec.pub 15 points 9 months ago

they did do this with "terrorism"... e.g. the "Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act"

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (4 children)

What if the crime I think needs to be uniquely persecuted is wage theft

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Using the bathroom on the clock is now wage theft.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So now every worker must shit directly on the boss's desk

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Ugh, that means I'd actually have to go in to the office

[–] dylanmorgan 11 points 9 months ago

Let’s start with it actually being punished before we get fancy.

[–] punkisundead 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's easy. You can do it by yourself, or with a bunch of trusted comrades. You don't need to have great means or technical competence. The capital is vulnerable, if you are determined to act." - Alfredo M. Bonnano

No need to get the state involved to do some revenge against your class enemies.

I don't think of it as punishment. Our capitalist overlords simply need to be removed, humanely. Torture, pain, forced labor -- these are categorically unacceptable in my opinion, no matter what the perpetrator has done.

[–] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 9 months ago

And I am fucking terrified