Remember, boomers voted against their own interests for decades. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.
this post was submitted on 01 Feb 2024
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The boomers aren't a monolith. It's millions of people with different experiences and actions throughout their lives.
Did a large number vote/legislate themselves into this problem? Yes. Are millions of others also along for the ride despite not supporting this system? Also, yes.
The issues in this article aren't even applicable to boomers exclusively. Gen-X is a big portion of the population mentioned in the article. This isn't a generational problem, it's a class problem.
And don't forget the fact that if these systemic issues aren't addressed, we'll all face the consequences.
Get out of here with your nuanced take. Where do you think you are?
My friend, this isn't Reddit. We are in the land of the sane. I mean not entirely but to a much larger extent than "big" social media.
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Actions have consequences.
Those who were taken along for the ride and actively voted against these are a small minority. I can see some benefit of helping them but would need to see what percentage of them actually need it.
The rest of them fucked around and need to find out or we're just going to keep doing this shit generation after generation. Those on the lower end of the socioeconomic scale have happily voted for regressive policies. Fuck'em.
They already fucked our planet, I owe them nothing. We owe them nothing. They owe us.
Let them eat cat food.
It's not a small minority. Look at the results of every presidential election since the 1980s, they're not representative of an overwhelming majority of the population. Nor are the republican/democratic splits in Congress.
But that's all besides the point. These generational lines are all arbitrary anyways. We agree there are problems with the status quo--do you think the fixes just shouldn't apply to anyone over 55? Would you be okay with that logic being applied to yourself in 30+ years?
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For as long as you continue to think the problem is age and not class (which you are a fool to think that every boomer is upper class or vice-versa), you will contribute nothing to real change. You're playing directly into petty division politics like a good little prolie.
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Their gray new deal was killing off pensions and having people rely on 401ks.
And they voted for it in droves.
Honestly pensions shouldn't be tied to private accounts, whether they're owned personally or by corporations. There's too much fuckery for profit.
You could say the same about the whole financial "industry".
The old idea was that you have Social Security, traditional pensions, and a 401k. Each of these has flaws, but together they can cover for each other.
Pensions can be tied to private accounts provided you also have the other two.
Retirement age in the US should be 60 for everyone, not based on tiers of what year you were born. We have some at 65 and some at 67, this is wrong, unethical.
And ALL Americans should be required to pay into the system regardless of the income you make. If the wealthy paid their fair share we would have less problems in the system. And yes, they would be eligible to collect retirement like anyone else.
And ALL Americans should be required to pay into the system regardless of the income you make. If the wealthy paid their fair share we would have less problems in the system. And yes, they would be eligible to collect retirement like anyone else.
Woah there, internet friend. Getting the wealthy to pay their faire share sounds awful like communism. This is America, were the rich can do whatever they want.
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If old people wanted to Retire they wouldn't be the Largest Republican Voting Block in America.
And the ones who voted Democrat should have chose someone better than Joe fucking Biden in the primaries. But no they're a bunch of selfish uncompromising assholes.
How about make it so young people can afford to live and they might be more excited about working.
We could have better jobs if old people weren't squatting in them for eternity.
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It’s the young that are fucked not the old
It's not really young or old that are fucked. It's still the poor and rich, and guess which one is fucked. Over time the wealth gap is widening which sucks for younger people. But it's still a rich and poor problem, and I think we should have sympathy for those with financial insecurity regardless of age.
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The numbers aren't great. Turns out the boomers fucked their own too.
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fuck. here we go.
you think this money to help them retire is coming from the government? no. lol.
It's coming from us. filial responsibility laws are already on the books. if you can't fund your own retirement, get it from your kids before you're allowed to get anything from the state.
your boomer parents will reverse mortgage their house, liquidate everything, then come for your paychecks like child support, until you're tapped out permanently. they won't do it maliciously, not directly, they'll do it because it's a "requirement" of properly retiring. sorry hun, it's the law, I wouldn't if I didn't have to!
they'll drain you and keep you drained until they die. if we're lucky, the state then won't turn around and suck the state-paid care debts out of you as unfurnished filial debts.
Lucky for me my mom died before she could reverse mortgage her house! Free house y'all.
This is capitalism in action folks. Siphon all the money up to the top. Whoops, no one can afford to live now. Oh well.
Super sustainable!
Oh I know! We could get together as a society, through our government and socially pay for a security fund. For those that retire. We could call it social security! No one would ever be against that. Taking care of our elders and those who've worked their whole life. /S
It's extremely sad that we are going to have to learn this lesson, again.
an economist did a video the other day on how solvable it is. The gist, the shortfall is on a 75 year projection, and there are multiple ways of solving it, but working longer only gets 40% of the way there. So given the trade off on quality of life for people vs solving it in the many other ways, that seems like a shitty strategy. Also you need the politicians to do their part..
What if we killed everyone on their 65th birthday?
It seems way more fair than letting the privileged quit early and the vulnerable suffer
What if we killed everyone on their 65th birthday?
I'm all for that. I'm 40 and I've had enough of this bullshit.
Watch this be top priority for DC because all of them are geriatrics.
They're all rich. They got theirs, why would they give a fuck about anyone else?
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It's their fault that they were dumb enough to go along with whatever lie the system pitched them in their days. And they're suffering for it.
Social security? That they paid for?
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