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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 68 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Or he won’t because this is an old story that already has an acquittal: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68099669

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Are chats on snapchat public? Because if not, this is just an admission of automatically scanning and evaluating all communications on the app no?

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It was not immediately clear how UK authorities were alerted to the message, with the judge noting "they were not the subject of evidence in this trial".

A literal "We're not the ones on trial here!" Holy shit.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

Its the UK they invented that phrase.

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 24 points 9 months ago

Snapchat is not end-to-end encrypted, so they saw the message and notified the authorities. So yes, exactly.

"Intercepted while the plane was over England through unknown reasons" my ass lmao.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No they are not. It was intended as a private joke among friends.

It was not immediately clear how UK authorities were alerted to the message, with the judge noting "they were not the subject of evidence in this trial".

A spokesperson for Snapchat said the social media platform would not "comment on what's happened in this individual case".

On its website, in a section titled "How We Work with Law Enforcement Authorities", Snapchat says one of its goals is to "maintain a safe and fun environment where Snapchatters are free to express themselves and stay in touch with their real friends".

It adds: "We also work to proactively escalate to law enforcement any content appearing to involve imminent threats to life, such as school shooting threats, bomb threats and missing persons cases, and respond to law enforcement's emergency requests for disclosure of data when law enforcement is handling a case involving an imminent threat to life.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Also happened on airline WiFi presumably and I would guess that saying terrorist sounding shit over unencrypted channels on that sort of network is dumb as shit.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Is Snapchat not encrypted at all? If it's encrypted between the phone and the server then it must have been intercepted at the server end, either by Snapchat or by the intelligence services. Or on the phone before encryption, by the OS, keyboard, or Snapchat app.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Their text chat is not E2E

[–] Verat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

But arent client to server and end to end different? It sounded like he was talking about client to server like HTTPS or some such.

Thats not how that works. Even tho snapchat messages might not be e2ee they are still client to server encrypted. The operator of a wifi network can never see your message content, only which services you are using.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Uh Snapchat already does that. Nothing about it is encrypted. And deleted messages are only deleted from your device, not snapchats servers.

[–] Evia@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

That was a big question during the trial, too

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Serious question: what would these fighter planes actually do in such situation?

[–] Aidinthel@reddthat.com 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I guess they could shoot the airliner down if it starts flying toward any towers.

[–] bisby@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

But that wasnt the threat. They were going to stop him from blowing up the plane by.... blowing up the plane.

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago

There is a difference between the plane being blown up over London, or shot down over farm fields

[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

By blowing up the plane before it can blow up and whatever else it hits.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In theory, the threat could have just been a bluff to gain control of the plane.

[–] bisby@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

bluffing a threat to the plane by snapchatting your friend would be a weird move. No one on the plane even knew a "threat" was made.

It seems like "we have no details at all about the threat (because it wasn't actually credible), so let's just be prepared for every situation" is the logic.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Yup, some higher up will make the call to shoot it down before more damage can be made.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

They'd get a really big megaphone and tell the pilot "Pull over!"

jk, they'll just fire a Sidewinder missile at it if it deviates from its flight path.

[–] Trollception@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Guessing it gives them information on what is actually happening on the plane. If the pilots were being held against their will they could be following orders from a hijacker.

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Sounds logical.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 10 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


An airline passenger who prompted the Spanish air force to scramble fighter jets after he said he was going to blow up the plane he was on appeared Monday in court, the BBC reported.

Aditya Verma was 18 when he and his friends traveled with easyJet from London Gatwick Airport to the Spanish island of Menorca in July 2022.

The BBC reported that before departing, he told a friend on Snapchat: "On my way to blow up the plane (I'm a member of the Taliban)."

Security services saw the message and flagged it to Spanish authorities, who sent two F-18 jets to follow the airliner until it landed, per the BBC.

According to The Telegraph, Verma told the court he first thought the jets were flanking the plane as part of a military exercise related to the Russia-Ukraine war.

Verma's lawyer told the court it was a "bad joke" but emphasized it was one made in private with friends.


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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 9 months ago

How did they know the message came from him? Profile pic? Seems pretty work intensive (if it's even possible) to connect a UUID to an IP address and search everyone's phone for their UUID.