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"The Reddit Trick" in Google searches has been my go-to for the last several years. It's almost become a prerequisite for the search engine to even function at this point.

However, due to Reddit's impressively thorough bed-shitting, and the in-progress mass migration off of it, it might be a good idea to have some redundancies in place for that weird, digital, usage-case-specific Library of Alexandria.

I feel a little funny about simply copying/pasting useful info threads off of Reddit and into their applicable Lemmy communities (also what are we calling subreddits here on Lemmy? Communities doesn't quite cut it because subreddits is shortened to subs while communities is shortened to... well), at least without having the original posters who did the work involved.

If it's something common-knowledgy, like a Life Pro Tip, sure, it's fair game, re-post away. But if it's stuff that actually required any R&D, what do we then? Is there an ethical or moral consensus on that kind of thing, or is that still being built in discussions here?

P.S. - I vote we call "subs" here on Lemmy "lubs"

EDIT: lubs is a joke, y'all

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[–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are archives here: https://the-eye.eu/redarcs

And some tools here:

https://github.com/Yakabuff/redarc

I've grabbed a few archives but not spent anytime checking I can read them yet.

Hoard and post when relevant imo.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's great the site has been archived, but the problem is that Google can't crawl or index the posts. So if you're searching something in Google, this won't help you find the conversation you're looking for.

[–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah.

But if knowledgeable users have access to archives they can use that as sacred scriptures of ancient wisdom to guide and inform new communities in the ways of the old gods.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ehh...I mean that's not what people have a tendency to need when they are googling random things. Suppose I want to hear a conversation about how to replace a specific part in my specific model of clothes dryer. I'm not necessarily interested in subscribing to appliance repair communities. I just want to find a conversation about that answer in the moment.

[–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think current solution is grab r/appliancerepair or whatever archive and search/grep it.

I was more meaning if the die hard c/repairappliance guys had access to the r/repairappliance sub archive they could quickly retrieve and post a repevant 5yr old Reddit comment for a new OP in the way that one may search though a meme or gif reaction folder.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But mass spamming communities with old Reddit comment archives isn't a good idea at all. BUT I suppose if someone had their own personal Lemmy instance and were to post a total archive of Reddit it could work. But that seems like a massive strain on the resources of one person's ability to host content.

[–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I don't mean mass spam.

I won't be archiving Reddit, but I am grabbing a few subs.

If someine posts a question about a something obscure, like a particular old appliance repair as mentioned and a someone has a relevant post archived it may be helpful to post a quote, or link to a pastebin alongside a comment.

Much of the useful content on Reddit is often found by clicking on a recent thread where someone has helpfully linked to an older, more complete, answer.

I don't mean spam c/tea with pics from r/tea for Lemmy karma but if someone has a question about the mineral content of 1960's F1 yixing clay and I've got an excellent archived post from some yixing expert 8yrs ago on r/tea covering it beautifully, as I have an archive and tools set up to search it, I'd consider posting it.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree that it's one of my biggest laments with the downfall of Reddit. Whenever I would have a question or a problem, googling it with "reddit" at the end would yield actually useful results from real people as opposed to garbage AI generated articles of what it thinks I want.

Reposting all of the content onto Lemmy makes no sense though. It would almost be better if someone just made a full site mirror/archive copy that is able to be indexed by Google. I know wayback machine is a thing, but you have to first search for your Reddit link and THEN navigate to web archive and plug it in...and then hope a page was actually saved before the shutdown.

Also, this federation concept is neat I suppose...but one of the big downsides is that we can't just paste "lemmy" at the end and get a conversation we are looking for. Because every instance has a different title/website name.

[–] Evoke3626@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I disagree heavily. I think copy pasting all Reddit content would be an awesome way to pick up and sort of move and continue easily on lemmy. Imo it would reduce interruptions and lessen my reliance on Reddit for general real life user info

[–] tryingnottobefat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Communities should be called slices! Lemmings don’t often congregate in groups, but when they do, it’s called a β€œslice”! It’s not at all dependent on the β€œsub” nomenclature from Reddit, it’s our own thing!

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Hate to break it to you, but communities is already the default. No need to shorten it or copy reddit usages. If you need to shorten, c/ is good enough because everyone knows what you mean, if you aren't willing to type out a word.

[–] Sami@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It didn't stop the AI people so why should it stop you. There's already an instance where you can request a sub https://lemmit.online/ but it looks like it's just posts.

[–] FreeLunch@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This should be extended to also mirror subreddits and comments with their upvotes. The system could create fake users to achieve this. I guess as the 3rd party API is now expensive the mirroring needs to be done from a backup.

Additionally it would be ideal to have the posts mirrored also on a specific community on any instance. This way the new communities can decide if they want to start from scratch or from their Reddit content.

there's nothing there. no archives.

[–] MinusPi@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago

I'm happy enough just calling them Lemmy communities.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

As time passes the info on Reddit will age out of significance faster than you might expect. It might be an archive, but the more important thing is where content is being created. Search engines weight for age as an important factor.

[–] Gilles_D@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Ha, not sure if I read you right or it’s just my reading, but if you think β€œcoms” is somewhat inappropriate, I got news for you regarding β€œsubs”…

[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe someone could create a read-only (at least for posts) lemmy instance that archives the most important info subs. There are also cached pages for private subs, which could maybe be helpful.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If someone still has a reddit account and can post 20 of the best Hobbydrama posts, they would be my hero. That could keep me reading for a couple days right there

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

Check the instance lemmit.online.

[–] Matte@feddit.it 5 points 1 year ago

sublemmy / subs. easy enough.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe someone could start a public list of redditors who explicitly give (or refuse) permission/encouragement for any of their comments to be preserved on other sites.

I’ve made a LOT of comments on Reddit and every so often I end up searching my own comments to copy and paste a response to a similar question. I 100% intend on continuing this practice on Lemmy, assuming my niche community ever takes off.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

When you use Google you simply can request a cached copy of that site. Or use a link rewriter add-on that turns reddit.com into teddit.net

[–] Panamanap@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Will it work to find content on Lemmy easily by adding "Lemmy" to your Google query at the end?

Content is the second step I think...in my opinion copy what you deem useful und unproblematic?

[–] FreeLunch@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

It would be ideal to just mirror all subreddits, posts and comments from Reddit to the fitting community in Lemmy. Comments might be tricky, but should be possible by a knowledgeable programmer on his own instance.

[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

the various flavors of the fediverse call their communities different things. trying to use "subs" probably isnt going to go mainstream

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