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These scammers using Mr Beasts popularity, generosity, and (mostly) deep fake AI to scam people into downloading malware, somehow do not go against Instagrams community guidelines.

After trying to submit a request to review these denied claims, it appears I have been shadow banned in some way or another as only an error message pops up.

Instagram is allowing these to run on their platform. Intentional or not, this is ridiculous and Instagram should be held accountable for allowing malicious websites to advertise their scam on their platform.

For a platform of this scale, this is completely unacceptable. They are blatant and I have no idea how Instagrams report bots/staff are missing these.

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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 167 points 10 months ago (12 children)

I've reported Nazis, violent threats, and literal child pornography on Instagram that then told me it didn't go against their guidelines.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 78 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I read between the lines: this is the content they support, so it's not a platform for me.

[–] gaael@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand how hard and resource-intensive it is to fight against the nipple crowd. I for one am grateful that they chose to do something about the real issues ! Yes, a world with free nazis is kind of a bother, but most of us would survive. Can you imagine the horror of a world with free nipples ? We would all be doomed, that's for sure. /big s

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

But god forbid if you say a no-no word like 'suicide'.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Same... "this huge anal horse dildo does not break our marketplace guidelines"

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[–] DarkMessiah@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Sounds like a good time to make Mr Beast aware of these, he has a lot of disposable income to burn on a lawsuit or three.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Next video:

I spent $500,000,000 to destroy a company

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If 500m could take down Meta, I bet we could crowd fund that shit. Someone set up a GoFundMe!

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago

Just get Elon Musk to buy it.

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 79 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you stop using Instagram, then you won't have to worry about it.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 10 months ago (6 children)

That doesn’t mean the issue disappears.

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[–] Icalasari@kbin.social 71 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So what they are saying is they are willing to take liability and thus be open to being sued over this as they know of the scams but say they do not break community guidelines

Got it

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems like Mr Beast might have a claim for a defamation suit since they're actively allowing what amounts to identity theft and fraud on their platform.

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[–] neurogenesis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The AI have investigated themselves and have found no wrongdoing

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's going to be great when we find out all the Bitcoin whales were just the AI gathering resources for the revolution.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Companies serving ads should have at least partial liability for them. If they can't afford to look into them all, then maybe they are too big or their business model just isn't as viable as they pretend it is.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They are too big. There is no maybe about it.

You best start believing in late stage capitalism, you're in one.

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[–] peereboominc@lemm.ee 57 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Same with YouTube ads. Lots of scam's and reporting it always ends in my report getting denied..

[–] JigglypuffSeenFromAbove@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Google also doesn't care. I kept seeing the same scammy ads and sensationalist articles on my news feed, over and over, even after reporting them several times.

The only solution was to blacklist those sources so they don't show up on my feed. I feel bad for other people who might get scammed though.

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[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 48 points 10 months ago (11 children)

On Twitter I’ve reported:

  • Pictures of dead babies/toddlers
  • Pictures of murdered people
  • Death threats towards public figures
  • Illegal videos of terrorist acts
  • Ads for illegal weapons (tasers)
  • So so much crypto spam

Things found by Twitter to go against their community standards? 0

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Why are you on X Twitter to begin with‽

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Get the fuck off the Nazi platform

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[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago

He fired more than 80% of the original workers. There is nobody to check the reports.

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[–] bonnetbee@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

[...] Mr Beasts popularity, generosity [...]

Mr. Beast feels so unlikable to me, I really can't understand his popularity. But that's beside the point, sorry. Fuck instagram!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 23 points 10 months ago (4 children)

My understanding is he gives a lot of his money away to various causes so I suppose that's why people like him.

But of course equally he is part of that annoying YouTuber trend of bouncing around the screen being very loud and thinking that that's a substitute for personality.

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Like many, I've reported lots of stuff to basically every social media outlet, and nothing has been done. Most surprising, a woman I know was getting harassed from people setting up fake accounts of her. Meta did nothing, so she went to the police...who also did nothing. Her MP eventually got involved, and after three months the accounts were removed, but the damage had gone on for about two years at that point.

As someone that works in tech, it's obvious why this is such a hard problem, because it requires actual people to review the content, to get context, and to resolve in a timely and efficient manner. It's not a scalable solution on a platform with millions of posts a day, because it takes thousands (if not more) of people to triage, action, and build on this. That costs a ton of money, and tech companies have been trying (and failing) to scale this problem for decades. I maintain that if someone is able to reliably solve this problem (where users are happy), they'll make billions.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to argue that if they can't scale to millions of users safely they shouldn't.

If they were selling food at huge scales but "couldn't afford to have quality checks on all of what they ship out", most people probably wouldn't be like "yeah that's fine. I mean sometimes you get a whole rat in your captain crunch but they have to make a profit"

Also I'm pretty sure a billionaire could afford to pay a whole army of moderators.

On the other hand, as someone else said, they kind of go to bat for awful people more often than not. I don't really want to see that behavior scaled up.

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[–] Rooter@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I reported a pic of a nazi flag with Hitler in front of it, with the caption: Hitler did nothing wrong, f**k jews.

Doesn't go against community standards.

I made a video about the struggles of children who are sexual abused, with a link to donate to a charity that helps children. Instant shadowban and no longer monetized.

All of metas moderation is done by bots, and they are terrible at moderation.

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[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not that this helps anyone, but I gave up Instagram the day Facebook bought it. I don't regret it and my mental health is better for it. Using Instagram made me depressed as hell.

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Enshittification has become the new way of life for tech firms like Meta.

They lay off workers and decrease user safety, because that leads to more ad buys. This year’s record profits need to exceed last year’s record profits, even though a fourth of you are fired. More profit, or else…

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[–] stefenauris@pawb.social 30 points 10 months ago

I doubt they're missing them. They simply don't care and will continue to not care until something happens that makes the money generated by the ADs not worth it.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

I report lots of scam ads and leave comments calling them out. I’ve had Meta or YouTube take down maybe one or two of the hundreds I’ve reported. But I’ve had a ton of my comments removed as “hate speech” (stuff like pointing out a NFT collection was using stolen artwork). We are not their customers - advertisers are. The people who made this ad are the people that paid Meta - why would they take it down?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Instagram is owned by Meta... Facebook.

Facebook had no problem helping pedophiles distribute child pornography on their platform, terrorists and Nazis from organizing events on their platform, or allowing deceptive political ads that swayed the votes of democratic nations.

Why would they give any fuck about fake Mr beast ads?

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (5 children)

It is exactly because Instagram is at the scale that it is that caused moderation to be difficult. Facebook has relied on using bots to moderate for so long due to its scale, and using bots that are specifically designed to detect AI generated contents is really not possible without introducing a ton of false positives, since the Instagram of the 2020s at its core IS celebrity/influencer advertisement, and there is honestly very little that differentiate what constitutes as "content* and "spam" there.

Since influencers will be the first to be automated by machines, I just don't really see a point in having an Instagram account any longer, the inevitable conclusion of creating a fake reality of your life on Instagram is being replaced by a machine that can fake it more efficiently.

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

There are different standards between the users and the people that give meta money. It’s sad but true, and why I think moderation is a SIGNIFICANT concern when considering federating with threads

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I read these comments about people complaining about AI ads and I suddenly realize how little I've had to deal with that shit. All my browsers have 2-3 adblockers since pretty much ad blockers existed, I stopped watching TV like 20 years ago and went full ahoy matey for a while, then paid Netflix and Amazon Prime and with ads coming there I'm back to mateeeeyyy, and though here and there from time to time I do see some small ads on some sites (mostly on mobile mostly though seeing an image on Reddit (now Lemmy) in the rif (now connect) app

I stayed away from places like instagram like the disease that it is, I pretty much don't Facebook, and I barely ever had to deal with commercials for like the past 20 years of my life.

Most commercials I'd see would be billboards EVERYWHERE in the real world when I lived in Mexico (seriously, Mexican government, please do something about this, it's beyond bad there) but now here in Canada, it's mostly pretty quiet and nice.

I guess I'm kind of blessed in comparison with everyone else in here

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[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Why do people use Instagram

[–] JigglypuffSeenFromAbove@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I don't know about OP and other countries, but where I live it's got to a point where companies are basically sharing everything on Instagram only. A lot of them don't even have official websites, and those that do have websites don't update them and leave them to rot and die.

Wanna know which concerts are coming up to your favorite venue? Instagram. Wanna see the full menu and prices for your favorite restaurant? Instagram. Wanna chat with a human and get a real reply? Sorry, they'll only answer your DMs on Instagram.

It's infuriating, so I keep an Instagram account just to follow those brands and know what's up. I also follow some close friends, but I don't interact with anyone and I don't have any posts, they all think I'm weird in that sense, but I don't care.

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[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

So basically they're saying it's the user's fault for not having a better ad algorithm. That's amazingly poor thinking.

[–] anarchyrabbit@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Fuck meta, fuck x, and YouTube is not far off.

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[–] Alcatorda@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

YouTube also rejected my report for fake Mrbeast giveaway ads :(

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[–] stalfoss@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I’ve stopped reporting obvious scams / spam on instagram because something like 19 out of 20 reports get ignored or denied

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[–] TheFederatedPipe@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

@Zaderade The internet is flooded with AI generated ads, it is crazy, I was using my sister's phone for a moment and inside an app an ad pops up, it was a obviously AI generated image of a singer with the lyrics of the song, nothing compared to a scam, but still. Another example is my mother, she was using youtube shorts and her feed was flooded with AI generated videos, the "person", voice, background, everything.

Then they ask why people are using ad blocking and alternative clients to consume content.

P.S: I have installed alternative clients, adblocks and all to their phones, I have told them and teach them how to avoid all of this crap, they don't see to care, they love ads and all this crap. (It's more of an habit thing I would say, but yeah)

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I grew up with the internet and find it wild how other people navigate it. I was at a friends house and he used the computer there. The computer was a maleware infested piece of shit. If it was a horse, it would've been shot. He was buying concert tickets but it was so slow, it reminded me of my first computer with a 56kb modem. While the site was loading he was clicking on ads to play pool and other mini games, like it's completely normal.

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[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The Review Requested Failed is really a cherry on top of this shit-cake lmao it literally describes modern social media in a nutshell to a T.

The funny thing is it's not even proper English, it shouldn't be "Review Requested Failed" it should be "Review Request Failed".

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