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[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 75 points 10 months ago (9 children)

This is why I got a cheap Aeropress and milk frother. I pay enough for my latte, and the barista makes as much as I do, stop judging me for not tipping. I tip servers, not counter workers.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 166 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Do not tip the servers. It scares the sysadmins.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 57 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Linux can run diagonally now

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

~~Not if you're on wayland. It really does break everything.~~

Vaxry implemented it in Hyprland a few days ago, which is not at all surprising from him.

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[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I laughed. Never as bad as spaghetti cabling though.

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

The spaghetti cabling forms a safety net to cushion the overloaded rack as it pulls away from the cinder block wall

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[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I don’t mind tipping for any hospitality service, but what I really hate about fast food and cafe tipping is that they often collect payment and push for a tip before the order was made incorrectly.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (15 children)

That's a good point. I also hate that about food delivery services. I tip my drivers well, but I don't like that I'm often giving a good tip and not getting good service in return. If I'd have known I was going to get bad service, I would have tipped based on distance only and it would be significantly less.

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[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This.

So counter-intuitive and self-defeating...

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[–] mastefetri@infosec.pub 67 points 10 months ago (33 children)

They'll keep it up as long as business is good. If people will pay 12$ for a latte and lines are out the door, and there are no regulations to stop price gouging and predatory behavior, why wouldn't they?

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Oh there are definitely laws to stop price gauging but that's for small businesses and individuals who aren't rich.

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

why wouldn't they?

It's not even a matter of "why wouldn't they," do much as a matter of they must.

Absent of regulations, any company that doesn't abandon every conceivable human moral in pursuit of more profit will find itself hopelessly out-competed by the ones that do. If your every competitor is charging $12 for a latte and paying their employees starvation wages, and you charge a reasonable amount and pay your employees a decent wage, then every hour you're in business your competitors will be making more money than you, and you will always fall behind, unless something comes along to close that gap.

Libertarians might try to say that eventually the free market will close the gap, but adults know otherwise. The free market doesn't give a shit about human decency, the environment, the value of mom and pop businesses, or any of that. The free market can only ever want to make more money, every year, at a faster rate of increase, every year. Forever.

Government is the only thing that can reasonably account for how things should be. Regulations are the only reason we don't have 80 hour work weeks and children in the mines.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Is $12 for a latte even price gouging?

Like, $12 for milk and eggs? $12 for a pound of veggies or a gallon of gas or a jug of water during a hurricane? Sure.

But I can buy a bag of beans for $12 and make ten cups easy. I just don't know if I'd call it price gouging because you're willing to pay out the nose for foamed milk.

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[–] vynlwombat@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 21 points 10 months ago

At my local independent coffee shop the practice is that the baristas pay no attention and start working on your order as soon as you get to the tip screen so there's no pressure to assign a gigantic tip. They also have much better beans than Starbucks, to the point that the founder of this shop spun off the coffee bean sourcing/roasting into a separate business that he continues to manage and now is the supplier of beans for every independent coffee shop for a 50 mile radius

[–] june@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There’s a new coffee shop in Seattle that’s literally 4 robot arms making coffee at 4 different machines. There’s one guy in the store to keep things tidy, but that’s it.

Pay screen still asked for a tip.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Baristas and coffee connoisseurs exist in a perpetual state of disapproval, so you might as well save some money.

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[–] TalesFromTheKitchen@lemmy.ml 35 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And the company probably made a net profit of 5 billion — a 25% rise from the previous year.

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[–] umbraroze@kbin.social 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We don't really have this whole tipping thing here.

I've had coffee in two places recently. One was in a hypermarket. I don't remember what the coffee costs there, because it came free with the meal. If the restaurant staff feel they don't get paid enough, I don't care if they get inspiration from France and torch every car in the parking lot. You see, I go to the hypermarket by foot. It's not that far away.

The other place I had coffee recently was in the train. 2.80€. I certainly hope the restaurant car staff gets paid well. They're technically railroad employees, after all. You don't fuck with railroad workers.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

I've never heard the term "hypermarket" before today, but according to Google that's what these type of stores have been called since 1968 lol!

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I've legit gone back to cash for petty transactions. If I feel like throwing the change in the tip jar, I will. But there are no stupid prompts for a tip to deal with. Unfortunately, a lot of places are going cash free. Professional sports games is one example. Hey beer man, thanks for handling me my $12 beer. No, I'm not tipping for that.

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[–] gbrown@transfem.space 21 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I haven't seen a $12 late where I'm from, they're usually about $4-5

[–] MalachaiConstant@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lately where I'm from, things that go on display for $4-5 tend to come with a $12 receipt

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 10 months ago

Remember to tip the machine that spits out your coffee.

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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Oh I'm sorry, I thought America was all about turning the bull loose and protecting our beloved economy in its current form at all costs.

Actions have consequences. An economy designed for infinite growth/metastasis on a very finite world has consequences. We've only just begun to feel the consequences of our not merely tolerance, but encouragement of insatiable, unaccountable greed.

Buckle up. The price of lattes will be the least of our worries. Another 10 years and Chocolate and Coffee will probably be priced out for us capital batteries. Don't worry though, they'll make some cancer causing substitute that's a third as satisfying for half the price. Be sure to CONSUME it.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I treated myself to a latte today and it was a bit over 5 dollars. There was no tip option on the pad. This was at Dunkin

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[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Today a 16oz caffè latte from Starbucks was $4.95 with no modifications.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You didn't even get avocado toast? What don't you care about the economy at all?

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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I couldn't tell you, I stopped going to coffee bars when the coffee became more than half my hourly wage, I'll make my own coffee thank you very much.

Can't even go to a McDonald's anymore without spending at least $16, I've stopped going to McDonald's and started ordering Applebee's because if I'm spending $20 on a meal anyway I might as well spent $4 more on there two for 24 deal and get like three times the amount of food

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[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Most of the shops got it got $8 but I van imagine some of the "fancy" shop could sell it for $12

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let me guess, that's 8 dollaridoos witbout taxes.

A latte here in NL is still € 4 with no tip required

[–] doingless@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes but US lattes can be close to a liter.

[–] barter@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 10 months ago (10 children)
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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The barista can ask their manager. If I have to come to you, that tip option doesn’t mean shit. Then I leave a 1 star review

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Now we just need a living wage for the customers

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[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I tip every time I'm at a sit-down restaurant, and infrequently at other places (mostly local places, to keep them afloat - they have it harder than the food chains). That being said, if they want us to tip for just food prep and cooking, maybe make the food half-off, then we can tip them if the food is better than we thought? $5 burger...It was really good, I guess I will give them $9. $5 burger that is crap, well, it stays a $5 burger.

[–] Seraph@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or, hear me out, $9 burger no tip and I'll come back if it was good.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (13 children)

That's weird. My coffee is way cheaper at Dunkin Donuts and it's counter service so I don't fucking tip them.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I got a chai tea latte from a chain called Scooter's yesterday. Six bucks. For some milk and tea. Fucking highway robbery.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yet you bought it. If nobody bought it then he wouldn't sell.

Scooter would have to go back to living in a van, solving mysteries with 3 other strangers and a dog.

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