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Jay Ashcroft flopped when faced with the most dreaded predicament amongst grandstanding blowhards: a follow-up question

Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft’s attempt to justify his ludicrous threat to have President Joe Biden removed from the state’s electoral ballot spiraled into chaos over the most basic of questions: “How so?”

During a Monday interview with CNN’s Boris Sanchez, the Republican was asked how he justified his threats to have Biden removed from the state’s ballot in retaliation for recent attempts to remove Trump from state ballots on grounds that his actions in the aftermath of the 2020 election constitute insurrection. The constitutionality of such a removal will soon be reviewed by the Supreme Court.

“What would then be your justification for removing Joe Biden from the ballot in Missouri. Has he engaged in your mind in some kind of insurrection?” Sanchez asked.

“There have been allegations that he’s engaged in insurrection,” Ashcroft replied. He was then met with the most dreaded predicament amongst grandstanding blowhards: a follow-up question.

“How so?” Sanchez asked, prompting Ashcroft to demand that Sanchez stop interrupting him. “You can’t say something like that and not back it up,” Sanchez countered.

“You interrupted me before I could back it up,” a flustered Ashcroft complained. “Are you scared of the truth?”

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[–] Nougat@kbin.social 200 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ashcroft: "Are you scared of the truth?"

Sanchez: "Oh, I am not terrified of the truth at all, seems like you might be."

You need to watch those clips in the Xitter link. Sanchez is on fucking fire and does not let up.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 125 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

I'll watch it somewhere, but it's not going to be at TwitX.

Edit here: https://youtu.be/pIsVB-H_M_8?feature=shared

The most relevant part starts around 4:22 but the whole thing is good (well, up until the YouTuber jumps in with his take, which fortunately is after the CNN segment)

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit that was embarrassing for Jay Ashcroft. He proved he's a legal scholar equivalent of a nepo baby because he is so grossly incompetent at understanding how state law works. If this guy was your attorney, the very real question of capability and competency would come up.

Hopefully his dad will help him understand the law better because having 2 J Ashcrofts be that hilariously dumb is a bad look.

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've heard better arguments from an L1 than this bozo. But you know what they say: if the law is on your side, pound the law. If the facts are on your side, pound the facts. If neither is on your side, pound the table. All he has is the table.

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[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the non-shitter link

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 25 points 10 months ago

Fantastic. 🍿

I also immediately switched off when the YouTuber started talking.

[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ it’s like these people are in preschool or something

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[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 96 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We need more journalism that pushes back like this.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

We certainly do, but we shouldn't kid ourselves into thinking that would accomplish much with these fuckers. They'll just start avoiding the journalists that refuse to stay neutral or lob them softballs.

It's not like their supporters are going to shame them for doing that, either. I'm shocked any Republican talks to any reporter that isn't from Fox News anymore.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 96 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Isn’t Missouri the show me State? Is this fucktard going to show any evidence of insurrection or just blather on about how other governors have made the claim of insurrection against Biden? My god Republicans are stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid to the fucking core.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 47 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That's why they attack education constantly. Education prevents conservatives.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Please stop assigning stupidity to things that are openly and brazenly malicious.

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[–] numbermess@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Their business is only in propping up accusations, so he's just gonna blather.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Missouri is one of the last and proudest slave states (followed only by Arkansas, Texas, and Florida - go figure?). They routinely slaughtered Kansans for their refusal to brutalize and own other humans. Rush Limbaugh is from there. Ferguson police just shoot black people for sport and openly laugh about it. It's an infected polyp on the anus of racist America with some of the worst, most hateful people scowling and lurching around in it.

That this chud would be representing the people of Missouri is not a surprise at all.

They do have some lovely scenery though, and there are a few decent people there as well. Just - on the political front, you can pretty well expect when you hear Missouri it won't be good news.

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[–] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 89 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The follow-up question was literally "What accusations are you making against Biden to justify removing him from the ballot?"

Like dude, you can literally make up anything and your base would eat it up. You couldn't even do that. What a moron, and he'll still lose almost zero support from his base because they didn't actually pay attention.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Ashcrofts have always been smooth-brained. But Jay's is so smooth that quarks could ice skate on it.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Oh, wow. I hadn’t put 2 and 2 together that this is John Ashcroft’s kid. Chip off the old block it appears. 😂

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[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 14 points 10 months ago

you can literally make up anything and your base would eat it up

They know.

They do. Every day.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The GOP can never actually explain their reasoning when people push back usually.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 30 points 10 months ago

Almost like they have no reasoning!

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 60 points 10 months ago (5 children)

You can’t tell me this clown is not inbred. Or at least the progeny of some sort of greasy-haired weasel creature.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 81 points 10 months ago (3 children)

His dad was afraid of the nipples on statues.

I miss the days when he was the most embarrassing Attorney General J. Ashcroft in the country.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

I thought this was the same guy and was thinking he aged well

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

I knew asscraft was involved with this somehow.

[–] MelodiousFunk@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

There it is. Was wondering if there was any relation, to the point where I had half a mind to look it up myself. Thanks for saving me the trouble.

It's nepotism and cronyism all the way down.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

OOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Right!

Well fucking hell, Missouri.

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[–] Hegar@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

some sort of greasy-haired weasel creature.

Brutal imperialist torture lawyer, as it happens.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

Wow. The look of utter and genuine surprise at how our government functions is absolutely priceless.

[–] moog@lemm.ee 56 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ashcroft got absolutely roasted holy Christ. "Duh duh duh huh what??? There have been allegations! I just don't know them"

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Um um um... They're in Hunter Bidens laptop! And in Hilary's email! And uh... Pizzagate. Um... PEDOPHILES! VOTER FRAUD!

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, I grew up in that state and I can tell you that a huge swath of the people that live there will see it the exact opposite.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not surprised. I'm in Virginia and I see MAGAts argue that having the gall to ask why is in and of itself an admission of guilt.

"Bidens a traitor!"

"Why?"

"YOU KNOW WHY IF HE'S INNOCENT WHY YOU SO WORRIED ABOUT IT HUH?!"

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 46 points 10 months ago

What a snowflake. He literally whines about being interrupted.

[–] mastefetri@infosec.pub 29 points 10 months ago

Gosh, how rude. Ashcroft wanted to ride out the clock with a gish gallop and the mean interviewer wouldn't let him. What happened to journalistic standards?

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Why would Rolling Stone link to Shitter rather than directly to the CNN interview?

They are enabling their oppressor

Edit: I tried to post the clip from CNN. After it hanging because it was stuck on the pop ups to allow it to track me even off their site and requests to push non stop ads to my cell phone in the middle of meetings and dinner I gave up.

There has to be a way.

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[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Oh no, not SCRUTINY!! GOPs kryptonite.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

‘What’s your legal argument?’

‘Your honour, it’s the perennial argument of I’m Rubber, You’re Glue, as put forth in the case of Billy vs Jimmy in the schoolyard, 1954. The teacher in that case argued that Billy was, in fact, glue…’

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago

Pandering to his #fascist supporters.

[–] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Melting down is the new "slammed."

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

No idea why the host keeps walking on the guests answers when just letting him talk is the best way to prove he obviously doesn't know shit.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Didn't watch the video, but from the quotes he did wait...

The Republican just claimed he was cut off so he couldn't answer, and then still wouldn't answer.

He wants to have the "let me finish" argument where it just devolves to that. When given time to answer, they don't, just keep saying "let me finish" until they walk away.

Remember, Republicans are toddlers, and they argue like that

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The host did cut him off a few times, but he cut him off specifically to keep him on focus to the questions at hand and not let him bloviate.

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Yeah. When a secretary of state positively asserts that there have been allegations that the sitting president of the United States has engaged in insurrection, making them answer "what did he do?" is the only next thing that should be asked and no deviations should be allowed.

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

I just watched, he does jump in once or twice, but seems like satellite delay awkwardness mostly.

After laying out the question, "what are the (details of the) allegations of Biden's supposed insurrection" Sanchez gives him loads of time to look like the fool he is.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

The host cut him off to keep him on track so he can ruin his own argument instead of changing the subject.

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