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Is DNS Bloat too? (lemmy.sdf.org)
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[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 207 points 5 months ago

If you can't remember the IP address of every site you'd like to visit, you don't deserve the internet.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 116 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Pro tip, You don't have to remember it. I have all my favorite IPs in a nice address book, keep it in my drawer next to my passwords

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

My DNS Rolodex is beside my slide rule and abacus.

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[-] snaggen@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago

My company actually used a whiteboard instead of a DNS for our internal network. We used it as a temp solution during setup, then 5 years later it was still in use. It worked quite well.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 85 points 5 months ago

Oh, you like the internet? Name every IP address!

[-] mons@lemmy.world 69 points 5 months ago

0.0.0.0/0

Don't even get me started with IPv6!

[-] famfo@social.dn42.us 15 points 5 months ago
[-] Synthuir@lemmy.ml 63 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I know this one! All credit goes to FauxPseudo@lemmy.world

"^\s*((([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){7}([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){6}(:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}|((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3})|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){5}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,2})|:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3})|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){4}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,3})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4})?:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){3}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,4})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,2}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){2}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,5})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,3}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){1}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,6})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,4}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(:(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,7})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,5}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:)))(%.+)?\s*$"
[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 62 points 5 months ago

That is a forkbomb and you can't convince me otherwise

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago

i dare you to run it

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[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago
[-] Synthuir@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Thanks for the heads up, let me know if it’s fixed now.

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[-] Klear@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago
[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 5 months ago

Unironically, I used to remember 3.
2 for servers with internet radios and 1 for google. But I forgot. Except 149.13.0.82.

[-] hihellobyeoh@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I remember 1 of the Google dns ones, only because when trouble shooting network issues it is my go to ip to ping so I know the instant I am connected again.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 months ago

Oh, I forgot about DNS servers. Then I remember:
8.8.8.8 - Google
9.9.9.9 - Quad9
1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 - Regular Cloudflare
1.1.1.2 and 1.0.0.2 - Cloudflare "Malware blocking"
1.1.1.3 and 1.0.0.3 - Cloudflare "Malware and adult content blocking"
45.90.30.180 and 45.90.28.180 - NextDNS

And I think 2960:fe::fe is also Quad9, but I'll have to check. Nope, it's 2620:fe::fe. So just the ones above.

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[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 57 points 5 months ago
[-] youngGoku@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

That's a cat who knows his networks

[-] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Holy crap, this ... This ... Is very accurate...

[-] pruneaue@infosec.pub 9 points 5 months ago

Why are catboys/girls and furries always the best at explaining stuff succinctly?? Lmao

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[-] ajmaxwell@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Thank you for this

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[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

Tbh, if you can't tap out Ethernet frames with a Morse key and decode the response by watching the blinking of an LED wired to the RX pair then you really don't deserve to be on the internet. Git Gud.

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 5 months ago

Okey, I don't get it. What's wrong with DNS?

[-] Inucune@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

When it breaks, it isn't always obvious or easy to fix, but can cause problems for anything that has to talk to anything else. The biggest thorn it puts in my side is that short names [ThisPC] are served differently than fqdn [ThisPC.MyDomain.com]. Does NotMyApp use short or FQDN to resolve other machines? I don't find out until the Wireshark.

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[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 20 points 5 months ago

I use pigeons and let the wind tell me where to send them.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

This might be funnier than all those Facebook accounts with warnings about "I do not authorize anyone to use my photos!"

Because they're trying to copyright an internet comment that they posted on a service hosted by someone else, with a creative commons license attached. It's like a step up in knowing how shit works, but still not knowing enough.

If you really want ownership over what you say.... don't post it on the fucking internet.

[-] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 19 points 5 months ago

I mean, not really. You own the stuff you create regardless of who's hosting it. Microsoft doesn't own the copyright for the millions of projects hosted on GitHub either.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 months ago

I use pigeons and let the wind tell me where to send them.

So is other guy gonna sue me now and win because I just copy and pasted what they said? This is a joke.

[-] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 15 points 5 months ago

I mean, probably not. That's such a short post, chances are courts wouldn't find it copyrightable. And obviously attaching a license at the end of your comments is useless in practice, because no one on the internet actually properly engages with copyright law. Plus suing over copy-pasting someone's social media post is dumb as hell and no one does that, tho I do think you could technically do it and win, because current copyright laws make zero sense if you actually stop and think about it for any amount of time.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 months ago

current copyright laws make zero sense if you actually stop and think about it for any amount of time.

So true.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 10 points 5 months ago

My lawyers will argue that this willful infringement of my rights as the orignal author of the famous 1997 Internet comment "So true" means that you now owe me $4000000 in damages, but I'll settle for one bitcoin.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 5 points 5 months ago

And yet Microsoft made Copilot, and there are currently lots of clueless programmers out there using it to inject code with god knows what licenses into their company's software.

[-] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 4 points 5 months ago

Which hasn't been free of legal challenges. Current copyright law doesn't account for machine learning, which is what allows them to do this. This could soon change.

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[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 12 points 5 months ago

Wait lol are people posting that to their comments to use it as claimed ownership? I did not realize that was the intent there

[-] callyral@pawb.social 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Are you trying to... copyright your comment? IPoAC existed prior to your comment.

[-] jw13@beehaw.org 5 points 5 months ago

It’s not even a license, just an abbreviation that people may, or may not, be familiar with.

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[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
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[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 months ago

My prediction is that we'll go DNSSEC globally when IPv6 gets mainstream adoption. It sucks how many just don't care enough.

[-] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 27 points 5 months ago

when IPv6 gets mainstream adoption

At the current speed that would approximately be in 2087.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 20 points 5 months ago

Whoa there, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[-] risencode@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago

when IPv6 gets mainstream adoption.

After my death then. Alright, carry on.

[-] Chobbes@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

The abysmal adoption of DNSSEC is just embarrassing, and I haven’t heard any good arguments for why we shouldn’t do it. There’s one blog post that gets passed around as justification for not adopting DNSSEC, but it doesn’t really go into any technical detail and is mostly just the author saying “I’m scared of governments and TLDs”… which is maybe fair, but you still have to trust them for regular CA certs and everything, so why not make thr base secure?

Honestly, I might care slightly more about DNSSEC than IPv6 adoption… IPv4 exhaustion and NATing everywhere sucks, but the fact that you can’t trust DNS is like… insane.

[-] mactan@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago

I have no doubt in my mind that there's some subset of the suckless crowd that thinks dns is bloat

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We should remove all those useless microservices! /s

[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Lol ... DNS is one of the pillars upon which the internets tands, a crumbling mess of a pillar but I'm sure glad we don't have a name system built on hosts files 😹

[-] famfo@social.dn42.us 17 points 5 months ago

As we all know, it's always DNS.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

It's insecure, which lets governments like China poison it. They straight up block encrypted DNS

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[-] madargon@is-a.cat 9 points 5 months ago

@scroll_responsibly Laughing in my self-hosted services, on my VPS which use only IP address :blobcatjoy:​

*Currently every service is also available via IPv6 :3

[-] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago
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