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[–] Junkers_Klunker@lemmy.world 137 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You forgot how they singlehandedly won WW2

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago (4 children)

If today, I wonder if the US would be more reluctant to get involved in that war, considering how seemingly half the country wish Hitler were their president.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 105 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

More reluctant? It's arguable that if Japan did not directly attack the US they never would have joined. "America First" was a powerful political group that urged elected officials and the public to stay out of European wars even if Hitler took over all of Europe. America First disbanded after Pearl Harbor. Fun fact: Dr. Seuss got his start parodying this group in political cartoons.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

however, it was controversial for the anti-Semitic and pro-fascist views of some of its most prominent speakers, leaders, and members.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if they want it more now or wanted it more then. This is a Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden in New York City in 1939:

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[–] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know. A lot of ideas about eugenics came from the US to Nazi Germany. US' support of allies was more political than ideological, and that in turn changed US ideology. Also, death camps which are the automatically objectionable act weren't known (or maybe weren't happening yet, I'm hazy on this) before Pearl Harbor.

[–] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's so fucking wild that Germany just ends up getting used as a scapegoat, so we can blame someone else in the history books, and gloss over one's own country's eugenics programs.

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[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We have that opinion now because the west took in and harboured all the smart Nazi's that did the research and developed the technology.

The problem wasnt Nazi policies, the problem was destabilized world order. Leaders easily look the other way on moral issues when power is at stake.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah, that's mean to the Nazis. Republicans love Nazis now.

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[–] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And then realized that hitler was actually a pretty good guy, the best guy, not better than me, but really great. The whole thing was a hoax though, a witch hunt, blah blah, A lot of really good people on both sides, blah blah, poisoning the blood of our country, blah blah Jewish space lasers.

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[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 62 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  1. Hitler wasn’t so bad

  2. Slavery was good for black people

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't taught much from the "slavery is good" angle in GA. It was more subtle, framed as mostly information about the goods traded and what slaves produced for the countries they were in. Like, it was all about the slave trade industry and not how awful the conditions were.

Lots of information glossed over in favor of capitalism.

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think TheJims was referencing the fact that Florida has recently added the explicit idea that slaves benefited from slavery (that they developed skills, for example, being one of the things they claim the slaves benefited from) to their curriculum.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  1. God created everything 6000 years ago
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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 11 months ago (6 children)

They wouldn't pass up on WWII since that's the last time we were honestly seen as the good guys to the world. The Cold War would probably be there too just to show "communism doesn't work".

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

WWII might be risky because some students might ask what specifically made the world consider the axis evil.

[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

"Well, little Timmy, you may have heard some other things about that whcih we're not allowed to talk about, but the truth is that there were some Germans who believed ardently in the German state's rights to do, uh, ...stuff."

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They wouldn't pass up on WWII since that's the last time we were honestly seen as the good guys to the world.

Literally the only time anyone thought you were the good guys lol.

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[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The moon landing wouldn’t be up there in red states.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It would be, but only to talk about how it was a waste of taxpayer money

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The moon landing wouldn’t be up there in red states.

Of course it would. It is one of the few actually valid examples of American exceptionalism which nationalists absolutely require as the underpinnings to their myopic ethos. In addition to teaching the history of this wonderful achievement, it will also be taught how these events never actually took place to support their claims the government actively lies to the American people requiring action for citizens to "take back" the country. Questions for both viewpoints will be on the midterm, so remember to study.

If you're wondering how these two contradictory ideas can be taught in the same classroom, then remember in MAGA school the class taught immediately prior to history is "Learning to live with Cognitive Dissonance".

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[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (5 children)
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[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No way they let people learn about the moon landing.

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

(how) the moon landing (was faked)

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wait until they mandate teaching about Jan 6th tourist visit to the Capitol

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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Moon landing was fake though, you can't teach something that is fake. /s

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

That's probably what they'll teach. That it was a fake liberal lie to undermine the glorious nation of Russia.

[–] OpenStars@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (21 children)

you can’t teach something that is fake.

Uh... I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you can though. Here's a little example:

Africa is a shithole country. White people were kind to accept the slaves that Africans themselves provided, and civilized them. They even gave them sammiches sometimes!

There problem solved: now little Timmy doesn't have to feel guilty about being the oppressor anymore! :-P Next week we'll cover how chaining native Americans to (active) hot stoves in >100 degree temps in the desert will help teach them the true meaning of Christianity...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (6 children)

The scary thing is that I've heard the "we civilized the Africans" claim made seriously before.

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[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Probably something in there about poverty and crime rates soaring after the liberal North forced the glorious and God fearing South to end the benevolent system of slavery that provided free housing and healthcare to those poor incapable souls in its care.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 17 points 11 months ago

Let's be real here.

The Moon Landing ain't gonna be on there.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's sad but true, especially here in Utah. Now that they've threatened to arrest any kids who openly talk about LGBTQ issues in school, and they aren't allowed to recognize any black history, that doesn't leave much for kids to learn except how to be as pablum-brained as their own parents.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I bet they leave in plenty of time to talk about how oppressed the Mormons have been.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Oh of course. They're allowed to teach pioneer history, so long as it doesn't include any of the Mountain Meadow Massacre stuff. We all know mormons are truly saints in every possible way and incapable of human blemish of any kind.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

maybe our president should make an executive order federalizing education and make standards stick

forgot never mind everything is a state by state issue and it is the citizen's fault for not voting correctly even though some are not allowed to vote and we have a militarized police to ensure citizens get put in their place and the minimum wage is $7.25 unless you win the geographic lottery and are born in a state with higher minimum wages

at least trump is not president so all is good

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[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They left out:

  • there was certainly WMD in Iraq. The UN just never looked in the right place.

  • over a million Afghanistan civilians deserved to die for the Trade Center attacks carried out by the son of a wealthy Saudi businessman

/s

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

apparently the constitution doesn't exist in this alternate universe. Which seems weird.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's because Republicans were against it after trump getting put off of ballots from the 14th amendment.

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