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We hope that shooting ourselves in the foot today will allow us to run faster in the years to come...

Expecting either US political party to drop its support for Israel is a fool's game.

I can't wait till we find out in a few months how Russian & Iranian money was actually fueling this.

The guy running against Biden has far worse policies with regard to Muslims. If that guy wins it "proves" America wants the worse policies, potentially causing Democrats to switch to those policies to try to win.

Luckily, this is a publicity stunt that I don't foresee changing any actual votes.

Didn't Trump have a travel ban on Muslims at one point?

Edit: yep, he did

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_travel_ban

Ah, yes, "recalibrate" to a dictatorship. Republicans LOVE muslims!

If they succeed in electing Trump, Democrats won't need to reflect about anything because they won't be allowed to run for office anymore.

They must want to completely lose Democracy because they aren't getting their way. That's what's in the ballot. There very likely won't BE 2028 election if Rump gets back in.

It's notable that the Republicans have not attempted to court the pro Palestinian voters in reaction to the anger at Biden. Because they are if anything more pro Israel / anti Palestine than the Democrats.

I agree that the Dems are the "only slightly better" party in a few aspects, and they need to do better. But slightly better is still better than the alternative and we need to vote like it.

FTA:

"a reflection of their outrage over President Biden's handling of the Israel-Hamas war."

If that's legit their position, then they have no candidate in 2024. It's not like they can vote for Trump.

These fucking idiots.

"That Muslim Ban was such a good idea and concentration camps at the border, we want to see what the orange one will do next!"

Morons.

I will never ever understand minorities that vote this way. I get people who are like me voting conservative, I don't but I get their self-interest pov. You are literally voting for people who want you deported. They have made that crystal clear.

Russian money hard at work.

Yeah sorry these people are idiots and should be ignored. We are in a really dangerous position right now where we could still fall to fascism and need every blue vote we can.

Do they honestly think that a Republican or Trump (who banned people from Muslim countries) aren't gonna ban them too?

Yeah that worked real well for the people that didn't vote for Hillary because sanders that shafted by the DNC. DNC never learned their lesson and Trump winning again I doubt they will learn.

Pro-Trump muslims. That's just great. So Trump gets voted in and instead of having a president ask IDF to spare as many civilians as they can, there will be a president who asks IDF to kill as many muslims as they can. While openly assassinating Iranian generals with precision missile strikes.

Muslim ideology doesn't exactly fit with democracy so it makes sense for them to embrace radical extremism. Same goes for most religions.

and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not.

This thread indicates not.

Centrist Democrats have never considered that a party is obligated to represent people whose votes it needs.

These people are stupid. Short-sighted generation that can't see past next month. They're not going to be changing anything, just making sure worse for no reason and giving conservatives more time to get the anti-minority establishment further embedded in everyday culture.

Yup, they're about as dumb as the Sanders or bust people.

They want change then vote/volunteer in the damn primary, volunteer to get rid of the first past the post bullshit.

Doing this, this is just 2016 levels of fucking stupid.

Everyone in the comments focusing on literally only this election and ignoring what they said in their reasoning.

Yes they understand if Trump wins it will be worse in the next 4 years. They’re hoping that the democrats realize that putting a candidate just slightly less evil isn’t good enough anymore and they actually need to win votes instead of saying “we support marginally less genocide then the republicans” and that being good enough.

Not saying that’s going to fully work out, but people acting likes that’s crazy aren’t seeing the full picture. At a certain point the democratic establishment needs to be punished for its bullshit lesser of two evils otherwise it’ll continue to do it. Is now the best time? Maybe not but thats a much more in depth analysis than just reacting “oh they must love Trump then!?”