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Yes, you're looking at ~92% tax right there. Final price jumped from ~113 dollars (584BRL) to ~220 dollars.
EDIT: A bit of clarification, when buying from abroad there's a flat 60% federal tax if the thing + shipping price surpasses 50 dollars. Then there's a state tax that can vary between 17-25%, which goes on top of the total taxed value. Part of the tax is literally "tax of a tax"
Hey, free shipping.
grátis.
De graça
Pakistan coming in with 50% phone tax + ~~18%~~ 25% luxury item sales tax + 50% customs duty + 7% service fee + cash money you need to bribe customs to release your package + shipping & handling
And I thought I had it bad in Germany (knew about brazilian already) with shipping + 19% import tax + 6€ import handling by DHL.
Fortunately no 6€ handling fee for sellers using IOSS, like AliExpress.
I guess this is supposed to stop you guys from buying stuff in USD, right?
From buying stuff from abroad in general. If it's imported, it can be taxed. Before Haddad (current economy minister), it was a gamble whether you'd be taxed or not, most of the time you weren't. Now, "to combat contraband", Aliexpress gave the thumbs up to this fucking stupid idea.
Oh yeah great idea. To combat black market activity, let’s make the open market extremely expensive to use.
I think the real irony is that, up to 1993, it's safe to say 99% of all computers we had here were contraband, because the taxes back then were even more absurd. Never mind the hyperinflation of the time.
Worked at a trade expo years ago. Talked to Brazilians. Another issue they ran into is corruption.
They were doing their best to temporarily export stuff to Europe, but there were endless delays in Brazil, and sudden and unforseen 'extra fees' that needed to be paid to get stuff out of the country.
Guy wasn't even angry anymore. Just sad. His fellow countrymen were undermining a Brazilian business out of sheer greed.
Incredibly short sighted too.
Incredibly shortsighted too
That’s business. Cash now. The rest is fuck you, cash now.
Brazil’s government heavily pushes for things to be made there. A place I worked several years ago had an office there for some final assembly or something for products sold there.
Is that some sort of import tax or an absolutely insane sales tax?
Federal import tax, plus state tax based on the total value with the federal tax
Both taxes are also applied on product price+shipping. So it would be a state 17~18% tax on top of a 60% federal tax on product+shipping+ 15 BRL delivery fee.
I was part of a Reddit gift exchange ages ago, before they separated domestic from international. I had to ship a $30 coffee mug to Brazil and it cost $220. Oof.
laughs in Argentina
It can always be worse
I would have guessed burning alive in Rio was the reason it would suck to be Brazilian
Rio is nowhere as bad as half the rest of the territory in matters of extreme heat. Mato Grosso, Amazonia and Pará are frequently way worse, and also where the majority of illegal forest fires for land clearing happen.
And they don't even get to speak Brazilian. They have to speak Portuguese.
And I would not want to deal with the waxing, either.
Have those tariffs been successful at building a domestic source for these kinds of things?
Denmark. I bought something from the US. About 300 DKK. I had to pay for shipping. About 300 DKK. I had to pay the toll. I had to pay a mandatory 120 DKK fee for the postal service to charge the toll. I had to pay taxes on the fee. I had to pay taxes on the purchase. I had to pay taxes on the shipping.
In the end I paid about 1000 DKK for a 300 DKK package.
Danish citizens and most Europeans get a lot for their tax money and fees. Not least peace of mind and a well-functioning society that actually makes it possible to live and not just survive.
I know it's easy to complain, but as someone who lives in the US, I'd be thrilled to live in such a society. I don't have any more money left over for myself even with the slightly lower taxes. I just have to pay out of pocket for everything.
Dude, Argentina recently updated this from 100% tax to 155%. We literally pay more to the government than the full price. And this is for every purchase, no matter the amount. Be thankful that your shitty politicians are less shitty than ours, you could be worse.
...I'm sure that dude that just got in charge will sort it out soon shudders
That is insane
That is insane, it's literally a robbery
Tell them to mark it as a gift, works around here 🤷.
Doesn't work in Brazil. Gifts cannot be sent from a business to a person, and even then there's a 50 USD limit.
You tell him to send it as a person 🤷.
What I've found out over the years is that Chinese will agree to almost anything to make a sale 😂.
And you can always claim engineering samples if it's a gift from a company 😉.
i'm afraid they make no such exceptions here.
and its being taxed directly at the platform, so no chance of asking them to claim a lower price like we used to do before. we have to find another way.
Have you tried this trick before?
Customs officers hate him because of this one weird trick!
They do, they really do 😂. There is this one gal, Melanie, she calls me personally to ask me "how long do you plan on doing this 😒... eventually you're gonna get caught 😒" 🤣🤣🤣. I just say "I have no idea what you're talking about, I just have a lot of relatives in wherever" 🤣🤣🤣.
Yep, works on the Balkans 👍.
They can't charge you for anything, since they'd have to check if it's really a gift or not, and they'd rather sit on their asses than do that 😂.
On the other hand, in the USA I bought a MikroTik CRS312 12-port 10Gbps network switch from a Latvian online store (Getic) for ~$500 plus $20 shipping, and didn't have to pay any import duties/taxes because it's under the $800/day duty-free limit. Way cheaper than buying it in the USA, where the same item is commonly $600 + taxes.
Australia is similar and has a $1000 duty-free limit, however online stores that have a lot of Australian customers do need to charge Australia sales tax (GST) of 10%. It can still end up cheaper, so there's still a lot of grey imports in Australia (which is where you buy products that are available in Australia from an online store in a different country because it's cheaper).
Por algum motivo o Brazil tem impostos disparatados sobre componentes electrónicos… não me parece que isso esteja propriamente a desenvolver a indústria local
O governo atual diz ter planos para começar a fabricar chips de processadores aqui. Entre isso e de fato começar a produção, podemos esperar pelo menos 6 anos (realisticamente, mais de 10).
Vale notar, esse imposto da tela é simplesmente por importação como pessoa física. 60% de imposto federal sobre o valor do produto e frete, depois tem outro imposto de cerca de 20% sobre o valor taxado anterior. Então a conta é (100 + 60%) + 20% = 190
PS: marcar o idioma do post como "português" simplesmente trava e não vai. Deve ter algum bug no lemmy quanto a isso
Isso já tinha supostamente o governo quando começou o imposto ha ja algum tempo atrás, que supostamente ja tem uns anos