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Seems like a good portion of the activity in the communities is reddit oriented. If the goal is leaving/hurting reddit, it seems we should be continuing on like it doesn't exist, instead of continuing to drive interest to the site. Thoughts?

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[–] thatguyyoumetonce@beehaw.org 86 points 1 year ago

reddit was like this when digg died. it won't make the front page in a few weeks but it'll come up randomly in the comments for decades after

[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This place kinda seems like that sloshed guy at the bar who unprompted keeps talking about how over his ex he is.

[–] arcticpiecitylights@beehaw.org 80 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Some of us are going through an actual grieving process over losing reddit. That place was my online home for like 15 years. It's the kind of thing that definitely deserves drunk-bar-ranting.

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

Yeah I think people are underestimating how much time was invested. Imagine if Gmail just up and vanished and you had to use something else after being so invested, ofcourse people are going to be talking about it for ages until the annoyance passes

[–] OofShoot@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

That's it! I'm getting shit-faced!

[–] Voodoo@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Ilikemoney@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Order me a beer. I'm almost there

[–] RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this seems mean. The place turned into a shithole, but I loved that shithole for a long time.

[–] Anon2971@beehaw.org 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No?

Let people grieve, man. Beehaw getting more popular as a discussion platform is 99% because of the overnight management collapse of Reddit. Of course people are going to feel down and want to talk about a community space that was home for many, many people for over a decade.

I understand if you're getting weary of the constantly discussion, but it'll gradually taper off over the next few weeks as this drama dies down. Or until Spez gets tired of constantly making angry, short-sited decisions and statements to any media outlet that will listen to his rants.

People will make alternative platforms their new home rather than dwell on their lost one eventually. Even if the bad press makes Reddit eventually walks back their decisions, the way they're handled the API change fallout has been so overtly aggressive and dismissive IMO they've permanently incinerated all trust in their leadership amongst many. I definitely never want to go back.

I've never seen a social media platform treat the wishes of its users with such contempt so abruptly. Some shareholder must be breathing down Steve's neck real heavy.

[–] ddnomad@infosec.pub 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Talking about Reddit is like thinking about your ex right after the break up. It sucks and oddly satisfying at the same time, and it will pass 😅

[–] loops@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Similarly, I almost liken it to getting out of an abusive relationship. Not exactly of course because it's just a website, but similar.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

I joined Reddit in the middle of an abusive relationship. I don't even need "almost" as a qualifier.

"Look at all these nice things I'll give you for the low, low price of making you feel like you can't function without me through a series of increasingly hostile and degrading actions while making you believe that this is the best you'll ever find."

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[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It'll happen on its own. Right now, that's sort of akin to asking New Yorkers on Sept. 15, 2001, why everyone's still talking about the attacks.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol did you just call this Redditor's 9/11?

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago

Hyperbole, but selected because Reddit is still on fire. Fires at the WTC were not completely extinguished until Dec. 20, 2001.

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit was important to a lot of us for a long time. It's natural to talk about it, especially while the dumpster fire is still burning. If half the conversations are still about reddit after things calm down I'll start to worry, but for now they keep finding new ways of pissing everyone off, so there keeps being new stuff to talk about.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, right now, it seems like most of the conversations are about Reddit, Lemmy, and the Fediverse, how it works, what it's for, and what defederation means in a link aggregation community format. Surely, we'll get into a place where we're all comfortable, and we're not all still being self-congratulatory about how cool we think everything is

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm of the opinion that the fediverse (and more specifically kbin) is my new home to talk about stuff. Reddit's been in the news and on my mind, so why not talk about it? Talking about other platforms isn't necessarily advocating for them. And people are gonna wanna talk about stuff. if not here, then where?

I do think it's important to encourage discussion of topics other than reddit, but to just avoid discussing reddit entirely? idk. Like I'd still talk about facebook, twitter, instagram, etc here if they're relevant and in the news.

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[–] darkmatterstyx@lemmy.fmhy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm thinking of this as a grieving period. I was on Reddit via Sync for over 10 years multiple times a day. I'm angry, annoyed, and sick over the entire situation, and commiserating with other Reddit orphans is helping me transition to Lemmy. It will slowly die down over the next few months and we'll find something else to direct our rage at. 😉

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[–] pixel@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

Tbh as long as it's relevant news, I don't see any reason why not to. Like. The reddit discourse will die down, but watching a site implode in realtime is worth talking about even if we weren't active reddit users at one point yknow, like. It's interesting and worth talking about, add on to that the fact that there's some semblance of personal stakes and it's gonna be p prevalent around here. But that'll die down with time.

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

Just give it time. People are still in the process of discovering Lemmy, so the reddit talk will go on for a bit. I also expect a “spike” at the end of the month, when most 3rd party apps shut down.

Beyond that, I don’t think reddit will be the subject of many posts - unless something major happens.

[–] BrainisfineIthink@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. You will never get over your ex if you keep bringing up your ex, talking about her non stop, and asking everyone what she's up without you. You have anew gf now. Let the old one go. She never really liked you anyway.

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[–] RadioRat@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

Personally, it's nice to be getting news of Reddit without giving them any traffic. It'll be old news eventually and I'm not a huge fan of shutting down natural discussion.

[–] dope@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

I disagree. We should be discussing Reddit even more. It's only a matter of time before web crawlers see Reddit being mentioned so much, it might just end up being on the first page of search results. Advertisers are going to see less value from Reddit as it slowly becomes just low-quality posts, users who don't spend money, and adblock users on the platform.

[–] SubArcticTundra@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

I think one of the reasons we might be discussing Reddit so much is because it's the one unifying topic that everyone on here can relate to.

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

This is what's happening now. This is what's in the news. This is what a lot of us care about. So it's natural that this is what we're going to talk about.

Don't worry, it will all blow over, and we'll naturally move on to different topics.

[–] winsomecowboy@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Whenever anyone questions what 'we' should do I strongly suspect Hall Monitor tendencies and hamfisted political aspirations. The passive phrasing hides nothing.

I'll talk about what I want. Lets talk about that well worn contradictory canard where you promote something by pretending you want it stifled.

In short, 'we' is just working its collective self out and attempts to steer it at this stage is naive, premature and revealing. IMO

Your premise rests on driving people towards reddit by mentioning it. Hardly a sturdy premise.

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Someone asking a question is hardly authoritarian, Let's try being a bit more charitable rather than jumping to conclusions please

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[–] alottachairs@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

like all hot news this will be old news.

what will be difficult is all the FOMO, what is reddit doing? whats the top news over there. Im caring less and less.

im intrested in how you're doing instead beehaw, are you okay?

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[–] MDMA@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's okay to discuss reddit, eventually it will go away but I want to people to discuss lemmy on reddit moree. I want all the mods who are still protesting to ditch reddit and make a new community here and link it in the subreddit is private message. It will make an impact and people will actually move because they have no where else to go.

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[–] OneRedFox@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This will happen naturally once the dust from the protest and dead 3rd party apps settles. Just give it time.

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[–] DracEULA@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Half of the content I see on here is about reddit, and they're also some of the most active posts. I feel like anyone looking for an alternative to reddit might take one look around and conclude we don't have much to offer besides bashing reddit.

There had been a daily reddit megathread showing up on my front page, and I thought that was a good middle ground.

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[–] kestrel7@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Some complaining is natural.

However, one problem I have with Mastodon is people talk way too much about Twitter on it. IMO they should just let Mastodon be Mastodon. But, on Mastodon it's been months, with Reddit it's been like a day haha. Let people vent a little bit. But I think you're on the right track.

[–] tangentism@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's similar to when a work colleague comes back from holiday and you can hear them recount their holiday stories to everyone else.

Yes, it gets boring quickly but the novelty will soon wear off and at some point the colleague will become self aware that they are repeating the same stories over and over and die a little inside.

Take it upon yourself to post comment other than Reddit or about how everyone posts about Reddit

[–] rimlogger@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

People are mourning the loss of a platform. I think it's okay that a majority of Reddit alternatives are talking about its death (at least for them).

I still use Reddit but have been exploring alternatives.

[–] CjkOvPDwQW@lemmy.pt 10 points 1 year ago
[–] nii236@lemmy.jtmn.dev 10 points 1 year ago

Let me grieve, man!

[–] JaeSuis@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

I mean, sure, I'd rather not hear that much about it, but people are grieving. I'm sure it'll die down and people need room to work through their feelings.

[–] StupidDunmer@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I agree. The more we talk about Reddit, the more curiosity we drive up about it. I don't think we'll ever completely stop talking about it though since a lot of people have only moved over recently and are still in the process of adjusting and comparing!

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

It was like this on reddit after the Digg exodus. It'll fade.

[–] Jamie@jamie.moe 9 points 1 year ago

Nah, it's really topical and helps ease people into the community by having common ground to start off on. Plus, it's cathartic to slam them in a place where they have no power.

I think it's kind of the natural flow of things considering the migration but I also feel like it'll die down over time as people get used to lemmy.

[–] ImHereForVorePorn@yiffit.net 8 points 1 year ago

Reddit is just the hot drama, it'll fade over time.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, totally. It’s a place to vent and others will come here and see all the crap Reddit is doing.

Mastodon was on about Twitter for like a month before people stopped caring about it.

Plus, I need to get my drama dose from somewhere.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 8 points 1 year ago

It's a nice idea but right now reddit is a very interesting topic. I hope they crash and burn and it's nice to hear about their insane things.

[–] lunasloth@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

I think it'll die down on its own over time. I remember when I first joined Mastodon back in November, it felt like my entire feed was full of people who were migrating from Twitter but were still talking about Twitter this and Elon that, and eventually those people either left or found something else to talk about.

[–] EquipLordBritish@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

It’s fine. Some shit just went down so Reddit is going to be negatively in all news for a bit, but it should fade to the background as more people generate content here instead of there. Reddit seems determined on being the next 9gag, just have to wait for a few weeks

[–] CarrierLost@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It’s been said before, but talking through it is a coping mechanism. Like it or not, a lot of people are/were heavily invested in that site, and talking through it is a way to help clear the air and start to move forward.

It’s drama is dominating social media right now, so it’s hard to NOT see it and hear about it, but we all need to let each other move on in the way that’s best for each of us.

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[–] lysy@szmer.info 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yes, stop talking about reddit! This said, I changed and the removed all my comments/posts and deleted my Reddit account afterwards! :)

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