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[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 293 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox release notes: we improved the privacy of our browser

Chrome release notes: fuck you and fuck your fucking adblock

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Clarity is needed here. The California language that sparked all this is qualified with "about FakeSpot's products and services". Meaning it could simply be third-party services that they send their own emails through.

After reading their privacy policy, nothing jumps out at me that contradicts this.

To be clear, I'm not a fan of the extension's collection practices, but the down votes could be because this may be unwarranted fear.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Unwarranted fear or healthy skepticism? This is the perfect time to “just ask questions.” Firefox is selling itself as a privacy respecting platform and therefore should be held to a higher standard than the garbage that is chrome. If it can pass the test it will be proven again and earn more trust which should result in more users, if it fails then it deserves to be criticised and lose users. Point is if you are selling yourself as privacy respecting you are selling yourself by default as ethical.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

100% agree. I wasn't trying to say the collection practice isn't bad, just that the other linked threads may be taking things a bit farther than what the policy actually says.

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)
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[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 136 points 1 year ago (15 children)

No idea why people use Brave when Firefox exists

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well, it said right there in the article that until today, Brave was that only browser that would truncate tracker tags when copying a URL to clipboard.

Moar browsers == moar innovation.

[–] Lafrack@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting, in the past Brave injected their own affiliate links into URLs. That alone should tell you not to use it.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh plus the integration with crypto...

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[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah but you can easily install clearURLs

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[–] h_a_r_u_k_i@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Default Brave blocks ads more aggressively than default Firefox. Of course you can achieve that with Firefox + uBlock Origin, but add-ons are not available on iOS and iPad OS.

That's just my experience. I still use Firefox + Firefox Focus BTW. To block more aggressively, I also use VPN + Adguard Home.

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[–] rem26_art@kbin.social 111 points 1 year ago (3 children)

oooh the Copy Link without Site Tracking feature looks like it would be pretty useful

[–] LuckyCharmsNSoyMilk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wish you could just set that as default.

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[–] preasket@lemy.lol 106 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Firefox's been killing it recently

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully between Firefox's recent streak of good releases and Google majorly jumping the shark lately we'll see Chrome marketshare take a dive.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cloudflare says 4.7%. I trust them more with these statistics because

  • they serve a significant chunk of the internet
  • they collect data serverside and I'm pretty sure more people block tracking scripts than change their user agent

But yes, it's way too small

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Eh, I'm ok with it being small. You get targeted by fewer exploits if you're using a browser that isn't high in market share. There's also less incentive to try to monetize their market share than when it's very popular.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Just crazy to me that Firefox is that low I really hope they can rebound. Chrome's strangehold on browser engines is bad for everyone.

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)
[–] LedgeDrop@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks for the comprehensive write-up. It convinced me to migrate back to Firefox.

I was on Firefox (8 years ago), moved to Chrome (I liked the non-admin/transparent update feature and Websites didn't break like they did with ff), then moved to brave (basically chrome + more privacy), and now I'll go back the Firefox (I hope I won't encounter too many non-FF websites)

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)
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[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It's a real shame industry doesn't embrace firefox. There's far too many things i rely on which only runs on chromium.

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you old friend. Sorry I've been gone for so long.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

TFW sense of superiority knowing I started using firefox since late 2000s and never once abandoned it.

[–] Amilo159@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Firefox needs to chill on the version numbers

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blame Chrome for ruining versioning

[–] gramathy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly I think this is more on Apple for using “os x” for two decades

[–] deeznutz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blame users for not understanding semantic versioning and just wanting a bigger number.

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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Version numbers are almost meaningless for end-user software anyway. Add 1 every time it changes is about the best you can do.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

no, I'm looking forward to firefox 420 in 2048

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nvidia needs to chill on the version numbers, their graphics driver is currently at version 537 lol

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[–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I think it's alright, sure it's not conventional but you get the point after all and non techy people also get the point. bigger number = highest update

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

We need the TL;DR bot

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I know this won't affect LibreWolf immediately but can anyone speculate as to how or when the Firefox updates would affect LibreWolf, if at all?

I switched from FF to LW recently so I'm just curious what the relationship(s) might be.

ETA: Another question: How do I update LW without the LW updater? Uninstall and reinstall? Thanks!

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waiting mozilla release its gecko webview and site isolation on mobile browser

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