They must have known Israel would retaliate heavily.
I wonder if their plan was to try and draw in other countries and create a large multi country war.
If so they seem to have failed.
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Iran and Hamas just wanted to stop Saudi Arabia from establishing diplomatic ties with Israel, further marginalizing Iran in the region. They succeeded there, and the majority of the retribution fell on the citizens of Gaza.
Iran got everything they wanted and came out clean.
That was Hamas strategy for sure.
Iran won't join; Hezbollah will go in their stead.
Iran or Israel's plan? Iran is well known for enlisting terrorists to do their dirty work for them, and Israel is probably eyeing up some border territory they can grab.
Apparently the sentiment among settlers is that the "natural borders of the Jewish Homeland" extend from the Nile to the Euphrates.
You know, that famous Jewish city, Dubai.
Having multiple carrier groups locked and loaded right next door makes this decision pretty easy.
They don't need to "enter the war" because they are already successfully planning, funding, and supporting it from behind the scenes.
I would like to remind everyone of the current year and that in this year a nation of 90 million people are ruled by a council of shamans. You know just in case anyone was kinda happy that this was isn't going to explode even more so.
Pending United States government if the Far Right ever gets their way.
Religion needs to become history.
I just want this war to be over already. I'm tired of reading about dead babies and naked women being spat on. It's gross on all sides
Unless the apartheids regime falls this will continue. The only thing that will lead to peace is getting America to stop supporting Zionazis
Peace is a long ways away and would require strong will for it on both sides as well as a lot of luck.
One side is doing Genocide and colonialism. The other side just tries to live in peace. Wanna know how they got peace in South Africa? They kicked out the white nationalist government
My intent was not to put equal blame on both sides. But if Israel wants peace and good relations, it won't happen unless the people of Palestine are agreeable to the terms. And just accepting some cease fire or peace agreement doesn't imply they like the terms, it just implies they prefer those terms over being bombed and invaded. They will need terms they can be happy with otherwise there will be another terror attack down the line and the cycle of violence might start up again.
Realistically, I don't think this situation will be resolved in a way that eliminates violence completely. But they might be able to get to a place where they can agree to blame individuals involved in the violence rather than blaming the other group.
And yeah, as long as the current regimes have power, it will be hard to separate the intent of the individuals from the groups.
Dark Brandon's message to Iran seemed to have worked.
"Don't."
I don't think Iran needed Dark Brandon to remind them a direct conflict with Israel would be a stupid risk for them. Iran's strategy was always to use proxy groups to attack Israel even when Israel attacked Iranian territory. If they won't start a war as a response to a direct aggression it's pretty obvious they would never risk themselves trying to save what they see as disposable tools¹.
¹ if you disagree with this assessment, look at who contributes more foreign aid for Palestine, even when accounting for the donor's GDP
Good.