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[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 57 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly, the real villain here is Maher. You aren't progressive just because you smoke weed.

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 47 points 10 months ago

I don't watch Bill Maher anymore. He lost me when he was spreading misinformation about covid and masks. Now his is letting right wing liars come on his show to...lie. And he is ok with that.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

This coming from the guy whose party has literal Nazis and KKK members.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

Remember Ted the infamous Charlottesville rally with “very fine people on both sides”? What were they chanting? What hats were they wearing? Whose voters were they?

Fuck Turd Cruz

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s always projection with Republicans.

[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago

Naw. They are conflating anti Zionism and anti semitism, just like the Dems do . From that lens their is plenty of leftists that fit that shaped mold.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well Bill Maher is no longer progressive, if he ever was.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

He's a brogressive. Talks about how bad the Democrats are and that they need to stop all the "woke" stuff. He's the type of person to say "oh it was just economic anxiety that led people to vote for Trump"

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem with Ted Cruz, other than him being a piece of shit racist and fascist, is that he is still a coward at it.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Reminder what Senator Lindsey Graham said about @tedcruz : “If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you.”

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

“Oh I know, let’s invite Ted Fucking Cruz on here to run his lizard mouth, that’s a great fucking idea. Y’know, a real adult discussion of the issues like we can totally expect from this wasteland of clown feces we call the GOP.”

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

On that same show, Jordan lobster Peterson was allowed to wax poetic on his notions of foreign policy analysis and weird notions about sexual freedoms. As bad as the interview with Cruz was, listening to Jordan was probably even worse. Good lord, every time I see that guy speak, I am always agog at how incels worship him. What the actual fuck?

[–] Additional_Prune@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As usual, Ted Cruz is lying. Not wrong: he knows almost all antisemitism comes from the right. Remember Charlottesville? Ted Cruz lies constantly.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ted Cruz absolutely is a lying bigoted piece of shit. But racism and antisemitism absolutely comes from both sides of the aisle in large quantity. If you were to say it's more accepted on the right I'd agree, but bigotry of all types is plenty rampant on the left.

Edit: love the downvotes, but I am a leftwing jew. Nearly 100% of the antisemitism I have experienced first hand in my life has come from the left. Most of the racism my wife, who is not white, has come from the left. If you honestly think the left doesn't also have a serious problem with bigotry you are all fucking blind. Actually ask people who actually experience these things where it's coming from and you will get a more nuanced answer than "right wing racist, leftwing good"...

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I will say that I've recently seen some pretty bad anti-semitism coming from some on the left. And, no, I don't think any criticism of Israel is anti-semitism. I criticize Israel plenty myself. However, I've seen far too many on the left who blame all Jews for things Israel does. As an American Jew, I can no more change Israel's actions than I can change Russia's due to my ancestors coming from that area.

Of course, Cruz isn't one to talk because for all the anti-semitism I've seen on the left, I've seen much, MUCH more on the right. The right has actual Nazis flying swastika flags. They have Christian Nationalists that want me to (at best) be a second class citizen. They have white supremacist groups who only hold back on hunting Jews because they know it will get them in trouble - right now.

There's an anti-semitism problem on both sides of the aisle, but the problem on the right is far larger.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Has this criticism been online or in person? Because the online stuff is a worthless metric.

The far-right would have absolutely no issue with creating sock puppet "leftist" accounts if it allowed them to say anti-semitic things. They've openly organised exactly the same thing before in LGBT spaces, pushing anti-trans rhetoric and pretending the community tolerates pedophiles.

Even if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, they will absolutely signal boost it, especially if it causes "in-fighting".

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a mix. I've personally seen online accounts that are otherwise progressive claiming that all Jews are valid targets for vandalism because of things Israel did.

I've also seen many news reports of Jewish college kids harassed by peers getting threatening while protesting against Israel's actions and for Palestinian rights. (Two things I would agree with, but that I wouldn't march for if I feel like my safety would be at risk merely because I'm Jewish.)

I don't doubt that there are elements (be it the American right, Russia, or someone else) trying to exasperate any divisions on the left. Of course, if the right thinks that Jews will see elements of anti-semitism on the left and go running to the right, they are sadly mistaken. Like I said, there's some anti-semitism on the left (likely magnified by bad actors), but the vast majority is on the right. And the right has the more extremist anti-semitism - with actual Nazis and people who want to make all non-Christians second class citizens (at best).

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 10 months ago

I've also seen many news reports of Jewish college kids harassed by peers getting threatening while protesting against Israel's actions and for Palestinian rights. (Two things I would agree with, but that I wouldn't march for if I feel like my safety would be at risk merely because I'm Jewish.)

I would caution against tales like this. Not that I doubt they happened, but I would be skeptical that these events happened because they were Jewish. I can imagine a scenario where the protests get "energetic," and they go up to people who maybe haven't really given it a lot of thought or wrestled with the mess that is the decades-long war, and give them an ultimatum of essentially "if you're not with us, you're against us." You yourself gave a great example of a scenario where you wouldn't want to join a protest. On campus, people often just want to get to class.

But then, I haven't read the articles you have. I just know that news outlets, lately, have been really trying to paint the Left like, "They have an extremist problem, too, therefore they're no better than the Right" (bullshit Horseshoe Theory).

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like it is past time for Texans to vote that piece of shit racist and fascist out, and that can be done next year when his Senate Seat is up for election.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

And he struggled to win in the previous off-year elections, which typically have less turnout. He won't have the protection of less voter turnout this time, and there's been a lot of political momentum against the GOP in the last several elections.

[–] badaboomxx@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

It is quite funny since the conservatives are thr most racist and intolerant ones.

[–] Ohsandbohs@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What was even the point of this article? It was 4 paragraphs of nothing. Just quote Cruz nonsense. No fact checking against his claims.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Oh, hang on...

*checks facts*

Ted Cruz is a lying piece of shit.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

well duh, there is no more capacity on the right. its all full up. any further rise has to be on the left.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

why don't they get a rebuttal