Stop. Preordering.
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100%. I'm a diehard Bethesda RPG fan, but never ever preorder. I'll never understand the stupidity in doing this.
Like at least find out if the planets are any good first and not just 2000 procedurally generated flavors of bear asses to collect.
Hopefully there's a whole RPG game in there and those are just side stuff to muck around and get some loot.
People will never learn to not preorder games. I have no hope for humanity at this point.
Queue the "internet people are a vocal minority" saying. Unfortunately, it really is true. How anyone can pre-order after fo76 is absolutely bonkers to me
well. yeah. i know people don't like to hear it, because it'd be really nice if games shipped actually finished or not incredibly bug-ridden Day 1, but for most people the protest of not preordering a game so it'll shipped finish just... doesn't register as a concern. unless the game is so broken it's actively unplayable (see the recent Gollum game) most people can hang with whatever happens Day 1 and it's not a super big deal to them, nor is the principle of a playable game on launch. this is a case of online sentiment being a vocal but clear minority.
Yeah but Bethesda?! Release a big ridden game? Unthinkable.
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They never learn do they ?
My tactic of waiting a year until a newly released game is fully patched and grabbing it with a discount has yet to fail me.
Nope. And everybody will scream cause they payed 70 bucks for a broken game, just like Bethesda is known to produce.
Just keep looking at the list. Payday 3 is also there. A publisher known for maybe a worse dlc and microtransaction policy than EA with the Sims, but it seems that doesn't matter a bit.
DON'T PREORDER SHIT YOU STUPID
Well this is sad.
insert here the definition of insanity lol
Every year it's the same thing with pre orders
Rule 1 of Bethesda. Don't pre order Rule 1 if space games. Don't pre order
$70 for a Bethesda game that will come out broken is just insane to me. I'll pick it up a year or so after release at a discount when the game is actually decent
If this gets us another Internet Historian video on the fallout, then this is worth it.
- Pun unintended.
I won't even consider buying until it's been out for at least a year or two. By then the major bugs will have been fixed and all the content added.
It'd be bad enough if this were just another AAA over hyped deal.
This is literally Bethesda. What are these people smoking?
Another proof for publishers that they only need big promises and nice trailers to sell their game, nevermind the state they ship it in
People still preorder games at full price even after all the controversies... Ngl the game looks sexy and may be a big hit but the price is a big no
Yea I mean, no wonder the companies have no incentive to avoid a broken day one release. The internet never learns.
Nobody has ever been burned by preordering, so I'm not seeing the downside here.
And it's a good thing that Bethesda has never released a game that was unplayably janky at launch, otherwise I'd be worried for everyone.
Preordering is dumb, preordering in 2023 when it's 50/50 whether any given PC port is going to be a total mess is dumb
Damn it, what ever happened to no pre-orders. People never learn, do they?
i will say, one of my favorite parts about bethesda games is that basically everybody agrees going in that this game is not gonna be anywhere close to done. we're all gonna see a fuckton of bugs and it'll be the subject of ridicule for years. but, still, we will all unflinchingly call it one of the best games ever.
Because it will be. For as much shit as Bethesda receives from "gamers", there is literally no game that scratches the itch the same way Elder Scrolls and Fallout does. No one even comes close.
Pre-ordering digitally distributed games is so pointless, but even more so right now. At least wait for the review embargo to end.
But it's even worse with a Bethesda game.
It looks good in the marketing (it always does) but we should all remember that it’s Bethesda making this. Then again, I can’t even name a developer that I would say “hell yeah, this is gonna be awesome!” at this point. The very sad state of the industry.
I genuinely can't believe people preorder games but especially Bethesda games, which are notoriously buggy at launch and have tons of issues.
Why are people preordering a DIGITAL, BETHESDA game?! It's still the Creation Engine (Creation Engine 2 so hopefully they fixed it!) so it's probably gonna be a buggy mess at release.
I'm really excited as well, but man... Don't think I've preordered anything in... Like ten years?
On reddit, there was a sub I sometimes frequented called /r/patientgamers. Was good to have some compatriots in either waiting for sales or just enjoying old games because they're still fun.
Only two times did I relent and buy games at full price over the last few years. BOTW and Spider-Man PS4 (which I actually just got bundled with my late entry into owning a PS4).
Considering this is Bethesda, as much as I like them, I might just renew my Game Pass subscription for this, rather than pay full price. (Side note: I'm 100% expecting the Game Pass price to jump just before Starfield is released.)
Once it's on sale, I'll get it on Steam because I can guarantee the modding scene is going to have way more freedom there than they'll have with the Windows Store version.
So maybe play it near release on GP, buy it a few months later on Steam.
It'll take a few months for major mods to start hitting the scene anyway because they won't release the Creation Kit immediately. Of course, a lot of mods will be out there within a few days, but I'm expecting it to be mostly unofficial patches (thank fuck the community has agreed on ignoring Arthmoor and doing it with open permissions this time) and silly nonsense like replacing models or whatever, plus a few cheaty things here and there.
I can't wait for the launch day bug compilations Either way, can't wait to pick up the game in two years at 30-40$ with all the dlc
Do not preorder ffs...
Preordering is just giving a multimillion dollar company a free loan of your own money.
Thats is pretty gross. Why is that the greater community continues to pre-order everything!
The funniest thing is seeing the rage from Star Citizen fanboys about all this. They keep saying "it'll be buggy and awful on release" like SC isn't already. I know with Bethesda, they'll fix it up and the modders will go wild with patches and add ins, delivering all the stuff Chris Roberts said they would. Meanwhile, I try and play Star Citizen and i've died or failed a mission due to glitches any time i've tried to play this past week.
No way am I going to pre-order a game in this era of half baked releases and especially not a game from Bethesda which is as well known for their rampant bugs as their compelling gameplay
Same price as Gollum, decisions decisions
It's an extremely common take here that preordering a game is ridiculous! I agree. I wonder if that attitude can be correlated with whatever tendency it is to use tech like the fediverse.