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[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 78 points 1 year ago (12 children)
[–] w00master@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

100%. I'm a diehard Bethesda RPG fan, but never ever preorder. I'll never understand the stupidity in doing this.

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[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Like at least find out if the planets are any good first and not just 2000 procedurally generated flavors of bear asses to collect.

Hopefully there's a whole RPG game in there and those are just side stuff to muck around and get some loot.

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[–] SaltySalamander@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (7 children)

People will never learn to not preorder games. I have no hope for humanity at this point.

[–] mustyOrange@beehaw.org 31 points 1 year ago

Queue the "internet people are a vocal minority" saying. Unfortunately, it really is true. How anyone can pre-order after fo76 is absolutely bonkers to me

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

well. yeah. i know people don't like to hear it, because it'd be really nice if games shipped actually finished or not incredibly bug-ridden Day 1, but for most people the protest of not preordering a game so it'll shipped finish just... doesn't register as a concern. unless the game is so broken it's actively unplayable (see the recent Gollum game) most people can hang with whatever happens Day 1 and it's not a super big deal to them, nor is the principle of a playable game on launch. this is a case of online sentiment being a vocal but clear minority.

[–] closure1170@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah but Bethesda?! Release a big ridden game? Unthinkable.

/s

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[–] Ardiente@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They never learn do they ?

[–] prof@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My tactic of waiting a year until a newly released game is fully patched and grabbing it with a discount has yet to fail me.

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[–] Yrt@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

Nope. And everybody will scream cause they payed 70 bucks for a broken game, just like Bethesda is known to produce.

Just keep looking at the list. Payday 3 is also there. A publisher known for maybe a worse dlc and microtransaction policy than EA with the Sims, but it seems that doesn't matter a bit.

[–] br3w0r@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 year ago

DON'T PREORDER SHIT YOU STUPID

[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] tango_octogono@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

insert here the definition of insanity lol

Every year it's the same thing with pre orders

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[–] Prymu@beehaw.org 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rule 1 of Bethesda. Don't pre order Rule 1 if space games. Don't pre order

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[–] alternativeninja@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] retnuh@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

$70 for a Bethesda game that will come out broken is just insane to me. I'll pick it up a year or so after release at a discount when the game is actually decent

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[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If this gets us another Internet Historian video on the fallout, then this is worth it.

  • Pun unintended.
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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I won't even consider buying until it's been out for at least a year or two. By then the major bugs will have been fixed and all the content added.

[–] addandsubtract@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It'd be bad enough if this were just another AAA over hyped deal.

This is literally Bethesda. What are these people smoking?

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[–] uzay@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago

Another proof for publishers that they only need big promises and nice trailers to sell their game, nevermind the state they ship it in

[–] Bretzel@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

People still preorder games at full price even after all the controversies... Ngl the game looks sexy and may be a big hit but the price is a big no

[–] sparky@lemmy.pt 11 points 1 year ago

Yea I mean, no wonder the companies have no incentive to avoid a broken day one release. The internet never learns.

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[–] GaryPonderosa@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody has ever been burned by preordering, so I'm not seeing the downside here.

[–] DonutBagelGizmo@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And it's a good thing that Bethesda has never released a game that was unplayably janky at launch, otherwise I'd be worried for everyone.

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[–] ngwoo@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Preordering is dumb, preordering in 2023 when it's 50/50 whether any given PC port is going to be a total mess is dumb

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[–] umar@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Damn it, what ever happened to no pre-orders. People never learn, do they?

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[–] msprout@fedia.io 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i will say, one of my favorite parts about bethesda games is that basically everybody agrees going in that this game is not gonna be anywhere close to done. we're all gonna see a fuckton of bugs and it'll be the subject of ridicule for years. but, still, we will all unflinchingly call it one of the best games ever.

[–] FirstResident@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because it will be. For as much shit as Bethesda receives from "gamers", there is literally no game that scratches the itch the same way Elder Scrolls and Fallout does. No one even comes close.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pre-ordering digitally distributed games is so pointless, but even more so right now. At least wait for the review embargo to end.

But it's even worse with a Bethesda game.

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[–] teflocarbon@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

It looks good in the marketing (it always does) but we should all remember that it’s Bethesda making this. Then again, I can’t even name a developer that I would say “hell yeah, this is gonna be awesome!” at this point. The very sad state of the industry.

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[–] karce@wizanons.dev 18 points 1 year ago

I genuinely can't believe people preorder games but especially Bethesda games, which are notoriously buggy at launch and have tons of issues.

[–] linuxares@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Why are people preordering a DIGITAL, BETHESDA game?! It's still the Creation Engine (Creation Engine 2 so hopefully they fixed it!) so it's probably gonna be a buggy mess at release.

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[–] comicallycluttered@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm really excited as well, but man... Don't think I've preordered anything in... Like ten years?

On reddit, there was a sub I sometimes frequented called /r/patientgamers. Was good to have some compatriots in either waiting for sales or just enjoying old games because they're still fun.

Only two times did I relent and buy games at full price over the last few years. BOTW and Spider-Man PS4 (which I actually just got bundled with my late entry into owning a PS4).

Considering this is Bethesda, as much as I like them, I might just renew my Game Pass subscription for this, rather than pay full price. (Side note: I'm 100% expecting the Game Pass price to jump just before Starfield is released.)

Once it's on sale, I'll get it on Steam because I can guarantee the modding scene is going to have way more freedom there than they'll have with the Windows Store version.

So maybe play it near release on GP, buy it a few months later on Steam.

It'll take a few months for major mods to start hitting the scene anyway because they won't release the Creation Kit immediately. Of course, a lot of mods will be out there within a few days, but I'm expecting it to be mostly unofficial patches (thank fuck the community has agreed on ignoring Arthmoor and doing it with open permissions this time) and silly nonsense like replacing models or whatever, plus a few cheaty things here and there.

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[–] Macawesome75@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't wait for the launch day bug compilations Either way, can't wait to pick up the game in two years at 30-40$ with all the dlc

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[–] Laundsallyn@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine putting your trust in bethesda of all things.

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[–] makeitra1n@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

Do not preorder ffs...

[–] PonceDeLeon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Preordering is just giving a multimillion dollar company a free loan of your own money.

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[–] idle@158436977.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really feels like people never learn with these pre-orders.

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[–] Honkinwaffles@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Thats is pretty gross. Why is that the greater community continues to pre-order everything!

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[–] Griseowulfin@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The funniest thing is seeing the rage from Star Citizen fanboys about all this. They keep saying "it'll be buggy and awful on release" like SC isn't already. I know with Bethesda, they'll fix it up and the modders will go wild with patches and add ins, delivering all the stuff Chris Roberts said they would. Meanwhile, I try and play Star Citizen and i've died or failed a mission due to glitches any time i've tried to play this past week.

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[–] crisisingot@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

No way am I going to pre-order a game in this era of half baked releases and especially not a game from Bethesda which is as well known for their rampant bugs as their compelling gameplay

[–] winter@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

Same price as Gollum, decisions decisions

[–] bilb@lem.monster 11 points 1 year ago

It's an extremely common take here that preordering a game is ridiculous! I agree. I wonder if that attitude can be correlated with whatever tendency it is to use tech like the fediverse.

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