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Discord will switch to temporary file links to block malware delivery (www.bleepingcomputer.com)
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Discord will switch to temporary file links to block malware delivery::Discord will switch to temporary file links for all users by the end of the year to block attackers from using its CDN (content delivery network) for hosting and pushing malware.

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[–] gridleaf@lemmy.world 202 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

Can we please stop building everything around Discord? It has its place as a chat app, but it's become like a web parallel to our own, except owned and operated by a single company. It's an information black hole, completely closed off from the rest of the web, unscrapeable, uncrawlable, unarchiveable, and borderline unsearchable. It has everything that is wrong with the web today. When the company dies, all information in the app dies with it. There's no Internet Archive for Discord.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

I agree. It's a handy chat app but it's not a replacement for actual forums and, God forbid, an actual support page for a project.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is not easy when everyone you know is already on Discord.

The network effect is active in full force here.

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its a good point. Eventually discord will find some way to enshittify, I am sure.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They already have

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I guess that is what they are doing, but this particular change seems pretty reasonable to me. Discord can't simultaneously be a chat application and a repository for all memes for all time.

Just goes to show that VC funded services are not sustainable infrastructure for anyone.

[–] Salzkrebs@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My university forces its students to use Discord for computer science. They even forced me to use my real name (otherwise they would've kicked me from the channel). It's a privacy nightmare so I hope they will switch now since they were using it to host weekly exams.

[–] markon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's so hard to delete anything on Discord it's in the permanent record. It's upsetting. I use it too, but it is a nightmare privacy wise and it has all sorts of consequences.

[–] Salzkrebs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Since I live in the EU, it shouldn't even be legal to force students into Discord. I really hate being that guy but if they do this shit again I will refuse.

[–] italien@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Admittedly I really like Discord's user interface. Love the servers that can be organized by channel and channel type, have permissions sets for different roles, etc. All that good shit. What I don't like is the total control of one entity and lack of privacy. I've been looking at Matrix but it still has a ways to go before I could ever think of completely dropping Discord.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Slack was basically the same when I used it

[–] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 2 points 1 year ago

I think at a minimum someone would need to create a semi automated client for Matrix that would have a better interface and then handle the technical changes and configuration automatically. Spaces can use used a "servers" but it involves creating rooms and then adding them and the process is complicated.

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[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 171 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah... In sure malware is the reason. It's not that they don't want people using discord for file hosting.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 104 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Still, it’s not a file hosting platform. 🤷‍♂️ it should have been temporary to begin with.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (16 children)

It literally is, it's part of their paid plans.

[–] worsedoughnut@lemdro.id 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It literally isn't, what the hell are you smoking?

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you think a service you pay for that lets you upload files to them, to share the files with an unlimited amount of other people, is not a file hosting platform? even though it hosts files for you? and you pay for the service?

what do you think it is?

[–] worsedoughnut@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't move the goal posts. It's 100% not an advertised feature to use Discord uploads as cloud storage or an off-platform CDN.

The unintended side effect that you've so clearly described is the exact reason they're implementing the protections in question.

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[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

What ? Pretty sure their paid plans only allow uploading larger files. It says nothing about the longevity of said files on their servers

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[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They wouldnt have been as popular if they had been temporary from the beginning.

Shoulda woulda coulda, this is now a thing their community has come to expect and rely on their platform being capable of. And the change of such will break a number of channels.

[–] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Eh if they don’t want people using their service that way, that’s their right. People who care about it that much should host a matrix instance.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Reminder that file uploads on discord more than a few mb is a paid feature.

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[–] lostmypasswordanew@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

This is typical enshittification. Make an impossibly good service to gain marketshare. Then make it worse once you've eliminated all competition and dominate the market.

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[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Did anything about my comment imply I thought this change was illegal? This has nothing to do with their rights

The issue at hand is taking away a feature your users have come to expect from your product after youve secured a level of dependance by outcompeting the competition

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[–] lea@feddit.de 44 points 1 year ago

Files are still stored permanently and links inside the client stay permanent as well, only links accessed externally are affected. I don't like Discord either but anyone relying on it as their personal free CDN had it coming for them.

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Dam gotta download all the memes before they get deleted.

[–] blackfire@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

This is good. At my place we actually already block any discord cdn links on proxy and emails as they were getting a pretty bad threat vector.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago

"To block malware delivery" haha good 1

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ughhh, now I have to go back to using shit like Google Drive. Discord was so much more convenient

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://catbox.moe/ is pretty good

[–] Skipcast@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Catbox shits itself pretty often causing for example 5 mb videos to take 3 minutes to fully buffer

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 5 points 1 year ago

I'm sure there are some selfhosted options for file sharing.

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