Gaming

No shit. When 1080s from 6 years ago still work fine, there's clearly some stagnation. They need to cut prices if they want people to actually buy their shit.

Intel needs to come thru with Battlemage and fuck up team red and and team green

I bought a 4070Ti for $1k and I deeply regret it. Not because I can't afford it, but because I let my want of gaming at 120 fps overpower my ethics of enabling a company to get away with these prices. It's definitely a regret I have.

Considering that both Nvidia and AMD have been constantly pushing the prices of baseline GPUs well beyond the golden standard of the 1060, even long after the Big Crypto Spike of 2020? Yeah, barely anyone would bother spending a small fortune on a GPU

Makes sense considering how bloody expensive they are in a time of economic shittery.

I’d love to upgrade, but when I think about it logically there’s absolutely no point. My rig works fine for what I play right now, and the value just isn’t there in a new GPU for me.

Personally I'm starting to buy second-hand hardware and I recommend it. Less pricey, more eco-friendly and less money in pockes of greedy corps

I'm not surprised; I was killing some time at Micro Center yesterday and couldn't believe how high the prices were. Shelves were pretty much completely full. I found better deals over in the laptops for GPUs. At least with that purchase you get a whole computer.

They're just ridiculously overpriced. Yes yes yes I know I know pc gaming good but you're literally spending the cost or more of a PS5 on a graphics card, it's just not competitive in the gaming sphere. I know I'm not looking to upgrade any time soon

I'm still running a 1060 6gb card. I'll keep it for as long as I can, and then I'll likely upgrade to something that isn't the newest generation at the time.

Still rocking my 1070ti. I mostly play overwatch 2 and Minecraft so it works ok for me now. Also I'm broke and can't afford the upgrade.

They don't understand average consumer looking to buy a desktop GPU is not the same as crypto miners looking to buy GPUs. Once crypto miners exited the market so did the main reason for an unusual number of units being sold leading to high prices in the first place, since to them it is a business expense.

This doesn't shock me. NVIDIA really saw the pricing for the resale market for GPUs and said "we can charge this too"

No, you really can't. Also, a lot more people anecdotally aren't super aggressive with upgrades anymore. People are getting so much use out of their electronics that there really is no need to upgrade for most people unless something breaks.

My hopes are on Intel as viable 3rd party. Looks like AMD and Nvidia have agreed they can fleece customers for piss poor perf/price improvements.

Not surprising since the last gen was impossible to find due to crypto and the current gen is overpriced.

It's even worse if you do creative work on your PC. Nvidia dominates this field completely because of the performance difference. My GPU is old and I really really need a new card for my 3d work but Nvidia is such a awful company...

Well maybe if they weren’t so power hungry and expensive people would upgrade.

The managers didn't realize that the high demand from the crypto explosion and covid 19 lockdowns is over. They didn't notice it coming probably still high on coke stroking their ....fat bellies. Large parts are seriously affected by the shitty economic situation because of a major war and the long term effects of the covid crisis. People are struggling while the food trading industry is mercilessly making record profits.

Of course people are not going to invest 50% of a monthly income on a gpu that is only marginally better and their trusty old 1060 is still good enough. The industry is completely out of touch with consumer needs and what they can afford and are willing to spend.

I wish intel got more attention in this field. I have an a380 in my homeserver and its great for lighter tasks such as transcoding a handful of streams at a time. They've been putting a lot of effort into improving the drivers for gaming as well as general use.

Everyone has a synced upgrade cycle now because EVERYONE upgraded when we were all locked in due to COVID. Does the massive spike in 2021/22 average out to a normalized graph? Yes?

Can't really talk about AMD but NVIDIA are at a position to drop every other model except for the x90 without major repercussions. Hell they can even go full enterprise selling these A1000 at a ridiculous profit margin. For NVIDIA at this point the gaming GPU market is just a "good to have". Artificial segmentation in VRAM aside the chips are just too good to service the consumer market so they might as well sell them for silly money. They don't particularly care about selling the gaming GPUs because they aren't losing anything not doing so

My mental calculus is: do I want to build a new gaming PC which will appreciably out preform my 1070 now for $2500, or do I want to buy the next 4 generations of steam deck for the same net price?

The obvious answer to this question is that the crypto bubble burst and AMD and nvidia are charging high prices for incremental gains.

I think the other piece to this puzzle though is that you dont need a high end gpu or even middle high to play a game at settings that look ok today. I upgraded from a 5600xt to a 6800xt recently but it was hard to pull the trigger and justify the expense because I was still playing new releases at decent enough looking settings at 60fps. Old hardware is lasting for longer, and you can still do quite a bit on midrange and lower end hardware.

In addition to that even integrated gpus are at a point where you can play games at a decent clip. Its not the high end max all settings experience, but my wife is perfectly happy playing games on her laptop with a 5800u and vega 10 gpu.

i built my pc when gpu prices were sky high in 2020. i settled for a 980 at the time, and its served me really well, actually. it had been years and years since i built my own pc, and it really made me understand how meaningless having the highest tier, current gen hardware is. i thought by now i would have upgraded it for sure, but ive never had any reason to other than maybe wanting to experiment with self hosted ai. nvidia thinks the average consumer is gonna shell out some ridiculous amount of cash for their newest product when its barely better than the previous gen and you really dont need it unless youre chasing clout or tie your self worth to your 3dmark score.

Just, no reason to upgrade yet. My current card plays even the newest games at middling levels which is tolerable. Based on previous experience, I'll upgrade once every 5 years or so. I'm only two years into this secondhand card.

yeah, I mean I’m using a 2060 and still able to play most games at 4k. I’m not playing super hi spec modern games too often, but even those I seem to be able to do at 30fps or just run at 1080p.

Curious to see what will happen with Intel's offerings at this point...

I'm not surprised. I was killing some time at Micro Center yesterday and couldn't believe how high the prices were. Shelves were pretty much completely full. I found better deals over in the laptops for GPUs. At least with that purchase you get a whole computer.

I would like to be able to push my 4k 120hz display with something like a RTX 4090. But its so damn expensive and will require me to upgrade my PSU on top of the $1600 Price of the GPU.

If the 4080 was cheaper, I would get that. But the 4080 is so expensive itself, I might aswell get the 4090 instead

Bought a 144hz 1440p monitor a couple years ago so I really need to upgrade my RX580, but I got fed up with GPU prices so just got a PS5 to tide me over.

Honestly I recently purchased a new RTX 4070 TI and it's absolutely dominated everything I've chucked at it. But it was very expensive for what it was and I can completely understand why people have issues with the latest generations