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[–] RQG@lemmy.world 239 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Valve good.

But valve company. Company bad.

But valve company do good thing.

But selfish reason.

But good outcome.

But what if no GabeN.

We pray.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 128 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Valve is motivated by money. But their strategy is to make excellent products, that put the customers first. A rare sight these days.

[–] julianh@lemm.ee 89 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think the the main reason is that they're private with no intention to go public. They're not beholden to random shareholders who know nothing about games and just want infinite growth, their decisions are actually made by people inside the company.

[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I played a lot of Sierra games in the 80s. I grew away from computers for a while and at some point in the 90s, Sierra sold out. They were basically drug through the mud, canned all its devs and became a brand rather than a software company. Sierra was also the first publisher of Half Life.

I was reading the history of Sierra there other night on Wikipedia and was sad because so many great games came out of that company and most were memorable. Hard to see that in any gaming these days

Back to my point, I started thinking that Valve saw what happened to Sierra and Newell decided fairly early on that they would be a software company and publisher and not sell out to a third party or take the company into the market. Pure speculation on my part, but they got their start sort of at the end of life of a bunch of 80s software companies. EA is certainly a shadow of what it was but it's still around at least as a brand.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 61 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Valve's strategy is to maintain dominance of their software platform, Steam.

It has been pushing Linux as a viable computer platform as a counter to if/when Microsoft wanted to monetize PC gaming in direct competition to Steam, which seems to be a wise decision.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 10 months ago (16 children)

As we get closer to Microsoft forcefully shoving windows 11 down our throats, more and more I consider switching to Linux as my daily driver for home.

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[–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Valve is one of the few big companies that still knows money comes from users and users come from a good product

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

sometimes users come from other users

[–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's the advertisement part that I skipped because it doesn't fit so well, the users need to hear about the good product before becoming a user.

[–] crapwittyname@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also, when a mummy user and a daddy user love each other very much, they go into a special private online matchmaking lobby and make little baby users.

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

but if they turn out to be ms edge users, those get aborted out of the womb.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

verily, from their loins they cometh

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Gaben is fucking smart and gives a shit.

[–] Landmammals@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Not just money, they're motivated by a long-term success. A lot of these companies can't see past this quarter's profits and bring a lot of Goodwill trying to make the numbers go up forever.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If they ever went public & were legally bound to make profit for shareholders, there would be no good feelings anymore.

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Going public is usually bad for product quality and consumer oriented business models.

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[–] Sloogs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago
[–] soloner@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Hahaha thanks for this. I really find it fascinating how bad CEOs make lemmy think all companies are bad. It makes no sense.

Blame the system maybe, I get that. But good grief we are all trying to make a living. The only way to do it is to do business. Like any system, it will be exploited, but I'm not gonna shit on private companies especially who clearly have a vision and don't need investor snobs to drive them to commit evil.

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I meant it the other way around. No matter how benevolent a dictatorship is, eventually the dictator will change and you better hope there will be another benevolent one.

I personally don't think the problem is doing business. I think the problem is businesses not being democratic.

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[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 149 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The day Gaben resigns from Valve will be a terrible day. I hope he has his succession in order.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Please pay this monthly access fee to maintain access to your account."

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“Please pay this monthly access fee to maintain access to your account.”

that's the day you download all your game catalog to disk and cancel your account, of course

[–] iso@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago

Or hope that GoG finally created their Linux client, although it has only be requested by a quiet minority of literally every single suggestion on their community wishlist.

For the love of the gods CDPR, please, finally realize that Linux users are you main customer base.

[–] EccTM@lemmy.ml 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The "bluescreen" was actually a bunch of hints at Portal 2's announcement at E3 later that year IIRC, but whatever.

[–] Logster998@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

They could have talked about windows 8's closed ecosystem and UWPs, but I guess this is easier to point the finger at.

[–] ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"This isn't working" SteamVR on Linux after another "bugfix"

[–] eclipse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Seriously though. After years SteamVR still doesn't work with their own headset.

[–] ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago

Even plural, this applies to Vive and Vive Pro

[–] Deykun@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Still relevant over a decade later

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

And yet there are linux users who know about it and still buy stuff with NVIDIA in it.

What saddens me is that there are even linux hardware vendors that actively sell stuff with NVIDIA in it.

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