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I've seen .: used two times now, and I really wonder what is? The first time I saw it was in an extract from the Swedish dictionary SAOL in NE. They used it something like this so:

History.: since year x

More lately I saw it used in this comment by @nodsocket@lemmy.world like so:

What make bikes so expensive?

R.: The willing of people to buy them.


What is this? Were does it come from? Should I use it?


Edit: thanks for all the answers :). It turns out it was actually used for abbreviation in the dictionary, they wrote "hist." instead of "historia".

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[–] digger@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've seen it as an easier to type version of the "therefore" symbol which is three dots in a triangle ∴

The symbol is used in math and logic. Try reading the word "therefore" in place of the symbol and see if it makes sense in context.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I always just thought ∴ meant you were being targeted by Predator.

[–] Open_Mike@artemis.camp 6 points 10 months ago

Can confirm. It was used in the introductory formal logic course when I was at uni.

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Normally, it's just abbreviation with a double colon afterwards.

Instead of

In example:

I.e.:

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 10 months ago (2 children)

FYI, "i.e." comes from the Latin id est, meaning "that is".

"e.g." means "for example", from the Latin exempli gratia.

The meaning is a little different, though the two are often interchanged. You should use "i.e." to clarify a singular meaning (think "in other words...") and use "e.g." to give one of potentially many examples.

See https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/ie-vs-eg-abbreviation-meaning-usage-difference for more examples and explanations.

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For English speakers, you can mentally substitute "idiom explained" and "example given" as a mnemonic to help remember the difference.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"idiom explained"

Mischief managed?

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

My parenthetical seems to have mysteriously vanished!

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Good to know. I'm not a native English speaker. I was going for the equivalent of the German "z.B." - "zum Beispiel".

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

z.B. = e.g.

d.h. = i.e.

[–] kirklennon@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The abbreviation i.e. is short for "id est," literally "that is." English-language alternatives would be "that is to say" or "in other words."

The abbreviation e.g. is short for "exempli gratia," meaning "for example."

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The way I remember it is "i.e." means "In other words" and "e.g." means "for Example".

I used to mix those two up all the time!

[–] algorithmae@lemmy.one 1 points 10 months ago

"In Effect" and "for EGsample" for me

[–] Cockmaster6000@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

I.e. is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase for "in other words". E.g. would be "for example"

[–] 404@lemmy.zip 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"R.:" looks like an abbreviated form of "Reply:"/"Response:" but since "History" isn't abbreviated it just looks like a typo to me.

[–] radix@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Maybe the period is for abbreviation. In that comment, from a cursory glance, maybe R. means Response.

[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Am I missing some comments somewhere? All I see are people telling you the difference between the latin ie and eg. Nobody has commented on your query.

[–] octoperson@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can see 4 top level comments earlier than yours that address the OP, without being involved in the ie eg debate. I'm on the same instance as you too so idk why you wouldn't see them. caching problems with your app or browser?

[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Must be the app, as now I cannot even see my own comment that you replied to.

[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 2 points 10 months ago

Too bad, then I can't make a joke about itjust.works not working