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I just hate how it's the only retail space left that never bothers to organize things beyond men's sections, women's sections, and the dreaded kids' section. I had to go shopping today to get long sleeve black shirts for my job (long story). All I needed were like 3 larges that were black. That's it! But it took me well over an hour because of how much of a nightmare it is. I even had to go to another store down the road because the first one I tried was just a maze.

What I can't get over is how even the consumer big box stores don't bother to organize shit. You get men's, women's, kids' sections like stated previously and that's like it? There's been times where I wanted to grab some jeans but I had to dart around the store because there just wasn't a centralized jean section. It's like if I went to a sporting goods store to buy a tennis racket but the tennis rackets were divided into 3 separate corners of the store. Just... why? And the worst part is I have yet to go to a place where the sizes were actually organized beyond thrift stores. Oh you need a large? Be prepared to sift through 10 mediums and 14 smalls before getting there, and sometimes your large might not even be there but you just spent 10 minutes of your life searching. I'm not kidding when I say this, I once went to Value Village which is a big box thrift store and got jeans that fit me in less than 10 minutes because the jean racks were all in one place (!) and organized in ascending order of waist size (!!). But heaven forbid JCPenney or Kohl's or Target or Old Navy or any of the other stores for "regular people" do this.

I ended up finding the shirts I needed at Old Navy but they weren't even the type of fabric I wanted. Apparently we're in the season now where 90% of men's section tops are heavy jackets or graphic tees. (hate graphic tees btw, just wanted to say that).

And don't even get me started on jeans. I'm quite a tall fella and so I need to buy jeans from stores' "Big & Tall" sections (Big & Tall the retail chain doesn't even exist where I live), but their "Big & Tall" sections only ever have the "big." I once went to every clothes store in my area that I could think of and none had an "average" waist size pair of black pants that I also needed for my job that were also tall. They just had big waist sizes that were also like 40 inches down.

And then let's say you finally find the stuff you're looking for, now you gotta wait in line and when you finally get to the checkout they ask if you want to register for their account... then their credit card... then do you really not want an account... then they ask if you want a coupon... and then you finally get to pay for your stuff. To use the sporting goods analogy again, I don't remember Dick's Sporting Goods asking me all that BS just to buy exercise equipment...

The shirt thing has actually gotten to the point where I usually order my shirts from LL Bean online because they don't shrink much in the wash and they always fit. Only downside is they take like 2 weeks to ship and only come in solid colors, so I had to go in person for shopping because I needed these shirts by tomorrow.

/rant.

Anybody else struggle with this to such a degree? If you know any retail chains in the west coast US that aren't Value Village and aren't a total maze to navigate then please drop them down below.

edit: to drive home the first point about organization, if I go to buy a baseball bat then most sports stores will have a Baseball Section but it's like if those stores had a "Stick and Ball Game section" that also included Cricket bats among the baseball bats.

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[–] TheBaldness@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I needed some cheap gym clothes. Went to three places. Wound up buying cheap shit from Walmart, which I never do, and by the time I got home I was so fucking shot, I didn't even go to the gym. Straight to bed. I hate shopping.

[–] OnionQuest@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I straight up live in a different world from this comment and OP. That sounds like a door to door hour long errand run - max.

[–] toothpicks@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Where do you live? What do you wear? How tall are you? What sizes do you wear?

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you struggle that much finding stuff just ask an employee and they'll point you to what you're looking for.

I don't shop often but I have no trouble finding what I need in the men's section.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After thinking about this more i think I don't understand because I'm not American and I've probably never experienced stores as large as you have over there. Over here baseball and cricket section would take up half a shelf each and be put in the same isle and probably have tennis and table tennis mixed in.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My point was that it's just not organized. I know I can ask an employee but I shouldn't have to when it's all right there! My point about sports stores is a bit america centric but just think about other stores and it applies, right? There's sections, aisles, and things are grouped together. At least at the clothing stores I've been to, it's just "mens" and you gotta sift through things on your own.

Like if I want to go to the grocery store and buy jam, there isn't a "jam aisle" but there's an aisle that has jam and its almost always listed on the sign for the aisle! If it were like a clothing store then there would be no aisles and it would have a sign that says "processed food lol good luck!"

[–] Liempong_pagong@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I think it's a tactic they employ to make you wander their store and stay longer so you will accumulate impulse purchases. Just like the grocery, they properly under staff the checkout counters to make you stay longer and buy the displays on the checkout counter.

Just shop online.

[–] thelastknowngod@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why don't you find something that fits well, from a large, established company, and just buy the same thing again when it wears out?

Literally everything I own comes from American Eagle (jeans only), Uniqlo, or Muji. When I need something new, I just buy it online because I know neither their sizes nor my ass has changed significantly enough that I would be required to try something on.

If you are being a minimalist about things, you could break down your entire wardrobe to 2-3 pants, 10 shirts, 2-3 shorts, socks and underwear. If you can replace them all at the same time, all of the shopping you would do in 12-18 months can be finished in 10 minutes.

I've been doing this personally for something like 15 years.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

why don't you just find something that fits well from a large established company

Facepalm... I literally do. From ll bean. Wrote about it in the post. I also wrote that the reason I had to go shopping was that I couldn't wait 10 days for the shirts to ship.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are wildly overstating the knowledge of most employees. Every time I ask an employee a question like that they respond with "let's see" and just look for it like I could do on my own

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

They spend 8 hours a day 5-6 days a week there stocking shelves and helping people find things. Unless they were very new I would expect them to know where everything is or point to the area where it would be.

When I worked retail and someone asked where something was I could take them to the area and then quickly look and find it for them.

[–] apis@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They jumble it up all over the store to keep shoppers wandering around, getting exposed to wares they didn't know they were interested in.

The rest is just keeping costs down by keeping stock as average as possible.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

This.

They also change the layout periodically so people don't get too used to it, don't want shoppers going straight to what they came for and leave.

[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes but have you also attempted to buy a camping chair at Dick's. It's really wild how badly laid out the camping section is. I buy like half my clothing at Tractor Supply Co when I'm picking up other stuff, I look like a hipster cowboy but it works.

[–] aeki 4 points 1 year ago

I get it, I find shopping extremely overwhelming, I can never find what I need, and not much fits. This is also why I use mostly thrift stores or online stores. But it sucks when you need something that won't ship in time, I'm just lucky I haven't needed specific clothes on short notice.

My partner has needed a couple of good t-shirts since his are either threadbare or shrunk, and you would think this is an easy request. Even the online stores only had things with a terrible fit and bad fabric.

[–] along_the_road@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it's an annoying for sure. Also takes way too much time. I also hate how hard it is to find stuff that fits. Especially sucks when you get a perfect size but then it shrinks. Now some materials like cotton are known to shrink but others are not like polyester. Even when accounting for that I get unexpected sizes.

Also today's trend seem so the "streetwear" with baggy clothing and white sneakers. Not a fan.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Always hated the white sneakers. So much easier to get dirty. My current pair are the vans ultrarange which has some white parts but are mostly black/whatever color you choose.

[–] toothpicks@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a tall person yes it is really stupid that big and tall just means big. And tall doesn't exist.

[–] toothpicks@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But yes I also agree with everything else.

Also speaking of being tall. Have you ever had a sink that you don't have severely stoop down to use? Have you tried buying a bed? How's your neck pain? Thank you

[–] toothpicks@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I also find buying most things difficult these days. You go on line and things are all shown in the search results even tho some of them are not in stock, some are only in stock for store pickup or delivery, some are online only. And then you eventually figure out what to order and some items will only ship with an order over minimum amount. Or you need to add more stuff to get free shipping but then the stuff you added doesn't count towards free shipping for some reason and so on and so forth in that fashion

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

For simple Tshirts I go for screen printing blanks. You probably know your size already and they're $5-10 each online in a wide variety of colors.

Not sure your country but try searching for places that sell Bella+canvas. In Canada I buy from wordans.

[–] toothpicks@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Anyway . If you actually want help with the clothes you could try order from something like American Tall. They are kinda meh but they are actually tall at least.