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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 120 points 11 months ago (6 children)

No. Stop.

This is the definition of interrupting your enemy when they're making a mistake.

Let them kill windows 10, I have atleast 5 friends ready to switch to linux when Windows 10 hits EOL.

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago (5 children)

As a gamer, proton/lutris still isn't quite to the point that I am ready to make the jump. It's very close though and I'm going to make the switch probably in the next 24 months.

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 54 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Typically, imo, most people who aren't ready to jump to Linux are there because their top couple of games are ruled by arrogant devs/publishers who balk at the idea of ticking an "enable proton compatibility" checkbox with their anticheat.

From what I've seen Proton has hit a quality of compatibility that the games will just run, and typically better than Windows. If it doesn't run it's usually because it's too new and proton needs a patch, or the devs/publishers did the aforementioned "no, i won't tick the checkbox, it's too hard." bullshit.

Basically, if your waiting on a game to be supported for proton, it may need to wait until Linux adoption hits around 20 percent before the devs/publishers get that bullshit idea out of their head.

[–] Shake747@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 11 months ago (9 children)

For me it's that a lot of the open source options to replace the Adobe and MS Office suites just always fall short. Trouble shooting Linux issues feels like hell after a lifetime of learning how to troubleshoot Windows issues.

Adobe is the bane of my existence for many reasons, and I jump ship wherever I can. But GIMP doesn't really compare to Photoshop. Inkscape doesn't work well against illustrator - the only open source artistic creation software I swear by is blender. Davinci resolve isnt bad compared to premier pro though - but not After Effects.

MS office isn't great either (why does Ms word operate like it exists in a separate instance of reality that's forever stuck in the 90s?!)

Microsoft captured the corporate world and compatibility with the off brand stuff is a huge issue

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[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 67 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Based on my conversations with my clients, it seems like the 2025 date is going to result in the greatest Linuxing of all time.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

as an avid multi-decades linux desktop user who has worked at a company with people in it before, i believe there is no way in fuck that this is true.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I work in industrial automation and I don't see how it could be possible

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 52 points 11 months ago (32 children)

Man, I'm just going to say it... I'm sick of all the Linux people saying it's the solution to all problems in computing. Can we not talk about anything else here on Lemmy? This article is about Windows.

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 20 points 11 months ago

I mean, this is platform which runs on Linux and embodies the same spirit which drives Linux forward - the collaborative power of opensource software. Is shouldn't come as a surprise that there's a heavy skew of Linux and opensource enthusiasts here. If you're sick of all the Linux talk here, feel free to move to a propriety forum, perhaps one with a red alien logo.

This article is about Windows.

The article is about Window 10 becoming EOL, and given how many people are put off by Windows 11, suggesting Linux as an alternative is a reasonable comment, IMO. Feel free to argue otherwise if you feel so strong against it.

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[–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As someone once told , windows 10 would be that last version of windows.(I like to keep it that way , at least for me😅).

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 11 months ago

That someone was Microsoft 😆.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

Don't really care. Once this PC can't run Windows 10 anymore, it's getting Mint.

I've recently come to realize all of the games I actually like to play, run just fine on Linux. YMMV, of course.

[–] Senex@reddthat.com 10 points 11 months ago

My next computer will be Mint and open source programs.

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[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I remember Microsoft saying that Windows 10 would be the last version they would ever release and everything moving forward would just be iteration and improvement. Knew that was a lie immediately.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Microsoft never said that. Its a myth that refuses to die. A single developer on a conference mentioned something as a sidenote, the press misinterpreted it and the internet took it and ran with it.

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[–] krayj@sh.itjust.works 31 points 11 months ago (8 children)

My system significantly exceeds all the performance requirements for Win11, but it doesn't have the Trusted Platform Module 2.0...and therefore cannot run Windows 11. It's disappointing that my system can run circles around a lot of newer devices but can't upgrade because it's running on an older motherboard. It's dumb that Microsoft made TPM 2.0 a deal-breaking requirement for Win11.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apparently you can get around that with a registry hack that tells the installer the machine has it. Not that I’d want windows 11 anyway…

[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (3 children)

IIRC if you use Rufus to make your installer USB it has a preset for Win11 with no TPM. Again, not that you'd want to go out of your way to install it but doing it that way is pretty seamless.

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[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We had petitions for everything, Windows Phone, you name it a decade ago. That won’t do jack shit unless it somehow comes with some large sum of money (how much? who knows) for Microsoft or some bean counter decides “hmm, maybe the environment shouldn’t take another for the team” and gets the company to change course before they are canned.

In the meantime, let’s continue to plot our off-ramps.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 24 points 11 months ago

Never mind the millions of PCs that don’t want to downgrade to this garbage.

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

I've been using Windows 11 for a while now and honestly I don't understand the hate. Who needs personalized functionality? Who needs to be able to move their bar from screen to screen? I do. I'm moving to Linux.

[–] elouboub@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A nonprofit group has sent a petition to Microsoft, urging it to extend the end-of-support date for Windows 10 beyond 2025 to prevent “the junking” of millions of PCs.

"junking". Install linux on it you mugs!

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Yup, putting this date on my calendar as the last time I'll own a Windows machine.

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 16 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I'm not buying another windows OS.

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[–] LogicalSpace@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

I use Ubuntu for pretty much everything, but I would prefer to use 10 in the unfortunate event that I have to boot into Windows.

[–] dlok@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Not supporting intel 7th gen and back seemed pretty strong handed, even now they're still decent processors.

And I know there are work-arounds but not for the average consumer

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 14 points 11 months ago

"No"

\ - MS

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trouble is, to upgrade I'd need to do a mobo upgrade, and I'm not doing another mobo upgrade any time soon.

Windows 10 wasn't great compared to 7, but I bit the bullet on that one because security updates are essential these days, and my workplace is microsoft-centric.

Windows 10s death is going to force a lot of poorer folks to consider alternatives - and let's be honest, it's going to be Linux. The majority of hardware out there in the world can't run 11, let alone a proposed 12.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Windows 10s death is going to force a lot of poorer folks to consider alternatives - and let’s be honest, it’s going to be Linux. The majority of hardware out there in the world can’t run 11, let alone a proposed 12.

For the more technically strong people, I can see that happening but I very much doubt the general public would do that. They probably don't even know what Linux is.

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[–] BudgieMania@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The Windows XP/Vista story repeated to the last letter, damn

Windows 11 will be relegated to a footnote in Wikipedia

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[–] MrSilkworm@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Hopefully by 2025 gaming in Linux will be greatly improved even more. Until then I'll keep using Windows 10 and I'll start saving for an AMD card

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[–] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Well, looks like it may be time to try and see what Linux is all about. Any good recommendations for a relatively Out of the Box experience?

I mostly just browse the web and play games (both single player and multiplayer, mostly AAA but also the occasional indie). On occasion, I also like to do some video editing in Davinci Resolve.

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[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Because petitioning a company works, yeah

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'll stick to XP, 7 and 10 in my VMs then.

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