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Why isn't anyone talking about this? It looks like Meta wants to compete with Twitter with a new Instagram microblogging app which will probably be compatible with Mastodon
Key Point of the article:
*“Soon, our app will be compatible with certain other apps like Mastodon,” Instagram’s slide says. “Users on these other apps will be able to search for, follow and interact with your profile and content if you’re public, or if you’re private and approve them as followers.” *
It's not instagram itself, but a new app made by instagram
Why does that even have the same name if the app is different lmao
It doesn't have any official name yet, but from what is known it would indeed be a separate app
by instagram
Isn't Instagram owned by Facebook / Meta?> test
yup
Instagram was the last one I expected to join the fediverse. They actually actively blocked 3rd party clients before and even shut them down.
My guess is that meta sees another one of their social media sites go down the drain and this time they want to try something to stop it.
My guess is that they want to use the already established userbase of Mastodon as a starting point. There's going to be more content from the start and also more users. If they would make a new app with no users they would need to start from scratch which is more risky.
They said it is going to work with Mastodon but we don't know if they are going to federate it. They are most likely to do so since they are actively talking about "decentralization" but who knows
In the article it says that people from Mastodon are able to interact with this. So it kinda seams like they are just making a new frontend based and their own instance of Mastodon. We just don't know if we are able to access their instance without their app.
Fair point! We just don't know the extent of the federation
I don't trust anything that comes from proprietary platforms. Anything they do is for their benefits
Time to break out the block cannon. Ain't no way that I let anything Zuck touches touch my stuff.
I don't see this as a good thing. I see it as a logical step after the success of the fediverse. But I am afraid of how it will develop, with more commercial participants in fedi.
The only issues I can think of is that a mass adoption of the ActivityPub protocol would also bring plenty of spam accounts
Anyone remembers Embrace - Extend - Extinguish? I don't expect this to be anything but an effort to crush a potential competitor
That might be an issue but I don't know how something like this might be appliable in such a platform
Quoting from the article:
The strategy's three phases are:
- Embrace: Development of software substantially compatible with a competing product, or implementing a public standard.
- Extend: Addition and promotion of features not supported by the competing product or part of the standard, creating interoperability problems for customers who try to use the "simple" standard.
- Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions.
This has been done for open protocols by other companies before, many, MANY times. They're likely going to "joyfully embrace" the Fediverse, add some "improvements" that will be proprietary and only run on their software, then when people become addicted to "Meta Fediverse", close things down dramatically so that people only run their stuff. We must prevent that bullshit.
Unfortunately the Fediverse might suffer a lot because of this
PixelFed!
So when's it releasing?
Probably in june
It's talking about a new app made by Meta. Key point from article:
“Soon, our app will be compatible with certain other apps like Mastodon,” Instagram’s slide says. “Users on these other apps will be able to search for, follow and interact with your profile and content if you’re public, or if you’re private and approve them as followers.”
Yes we just don't know the extent of the federation. We'll see
@super_user_do @raucao “Users on these other apps will be able to search for […]“ written by someone who never spent a minute on Mastodon
I just cited the article
@super_user_do I know. And I’m sure the article cited an internal slide, made by someone who hasn’t heard about the Mastodon community’s attitude towards search
Out of the loop, what's this attitude? New at the Fediverse and haven't heard of this before
I can sort of see that for mastodon as it's meant to be ephemeral but is the Lemmy community also resistant to indexing?
Why is that? I feel like i'm missing something obvious here but wouldn't that be a positive?
From my understanding, people are worried about the effect that happens on Twitter where bad actors search certain keywords to pile onto users. It avoids having to constantly block these bad actors.
But Instagram is part of Meta. It's just as bad as Facebook, Whatsapp or any other Meta product when it comes to privacy and it will never be FOSS, so very much unlike Mastodon
Yup, but people are going to try it because "bro the new Instagram thingy", after that we can tell them "bro did you know you can access the same content without being spied?
If there's a thing I've learnt in the past year is that people don't want to talk about privacy and FOSS software, mainly because the word "privacy" has been so overused in the past 10/15 years that most people think it's bullshit which doesn't exist anymore. It's a preconcept but unfortunately that's how people think and if you want them to consider free software juust tell them it's cool before everything else