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German Social Democratic Party leader Saskia Esken has boycotted a Bernie Sanders event over his supposedly anti-Israel statements. Bernie’s statement? “The targeting of civilians is a war crime, no matter who does it.”

ED: A recent episode with a popular German political podcaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t01qZutfh4M

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 170 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fucking virtue signaling for team Israel.
It is OK to criticize or express caution about Israeli policies and government. That is NOT antisemitism.

[–] livus@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Might not be all that commited to her virtue signalling, at that.

Someone who closely monitors her wikipedia page is trying to keep this information on her political position from appearing there...

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's antisemitism to insist that Jewish people who don't even live there are connected to Israel's crimes aginst humanity

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sure, I don't know what that has to do with notable Jewish senator Bernard Sanders that lived in a Kibbutz in Israel at one time, though.

[–] propaganja@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Quite notable, that Bernard.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 123 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A member of Senator Sanders’s staff said that as far as he knew, “Bernie had never heard of Saskia Esken, but I’m sure he would have been pleased to meet her.”

Hahahaha

[–] livus@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@roguetrick this is even better than Don Draper "I don't think of you at all."

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Damn, I should rewatch that show. It was goddamn great.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 112 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So ... the German is boycotting the Jewish guy's event over his statements regarding the morality of war crimes. The Onion is doomed, we're out of satire.

[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No way, dude… have you seen the Onion this week? They are killing it and should be accused of war crimes any minute now.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh they can’t possibly be. They sided with Israel - because it’s politically safer

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol I just can’t with these people going after Sanders, who is Jewish

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He's the wrong kind of Jew.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want the placid, malleable kind of jew, not one who has his own opinions.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

They want Zionists, if you aren't a Zionist Jew, what good are you?

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 8 points 1 year ago

He represents 17% of the Jewish population. https://g.co/bard/share/8f756e99642e

It's nice to read a non-biased AIi opinion on the zionism matter. https://g.co/bard/share/81ff92a41241

[–] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

When they said "Be a light unto the nations" they were referring to the white phosphorus***.

***Alleged

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally the only American politician with any integrity who stands by his beliefs and ofc he never wins an election. This is why we can't have nice things, because apparently feeding homeless people is communism but subsidising dying fossil fuel industries is patriotism.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't knock the electability anyone who can win senator or governor, particularly for as long as Bennie has held on.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Saskia Esken is being antisemitic by silencing and shaming Jewish voices

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My father taught me something early on which I paraphrase as "when in doubt, shut the fuck up". Clearly that lady was not taught that lesson.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It is better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Germany will keep simping to Israel till the end of time. lol Isn't Bernie Jewish himself?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

German politician is against Jew who made a clear stand against war crimes.

Sounds familiar, somehow.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 year ago

Lunatics take positions like this.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

According to the IDF, targeting civilians is their right.

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

If indeed only this sentence was the reason for Esken to cancel the meeting - it is a clear overreaction. Nobody should be on board with targeting civilians - meaning: they should not get attacked on purpose. Never.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

I like that Bernie's response to "eat the rich is" "No, no, no, that's a start, but it's not enough."

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

A member of Senator Sanders’s staff said that as far as he knew, “Bernie had never heard of Saskia Esken, but I’m sure he would have been pleased to meet her.”

[–] honeynut@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

objectively the moderate wing

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Oh no, now she won't be buying any more Bernie Sanderses!

[–] nyar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Liberals are very quickly taking a turn into undeniable fascism. I was concerned what might happen when the climate wars truly begin, but now I don't have any concerns, I know.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

The SDP has been a joke for a long time and it will continue to be a joke for quite some time to come.

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

"Social democrat" is just capture of socialistic values, dispersed under the umbrella of liberalism. Social democrats still support new public management, "global markets" and privatisation of everything. In effect they relish in the slavery that these markets impose, a race to the bottom where human life is worth nothing, while pretending they are doing something different.

They are in effect establishment politicians.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Germans generally aren't the best authority on treating the jews, so...