Android

Let's be honest though: Android's notification system has been better than iOS's since long before this feature was added. I'd still take Android 7's notifications over iOS's.

Though to be fair, my experience with iOS notifications in recent versions is on iPad, not iPhone. So it might be better than I think nowadays

As someone with GPay installed and notify for it enabled right now:

What ads and promotions? I only ever get "you paid for this shit" notifications

Not solely for that reason. The notifications are rich, you can reply from the notification and the notification icons in the top bar tell you what's going on without even opening the shade

Google, the poor multi-billion dollar scrappy startup that maintains Android, made a payment app that has one notification setting, "Google Pay". So all the ads, promotions, everything.

Amazon is another poor startup that does that on their Android app.

Best part is when they're shit and don't categorize / separate out their notifications into categories I just turn notifications off. If companies want to play by the rules and have properly segmented notifications I'm happy to let some of them through, else they're all getting disabled

This is dev dependent, meaning iOS devs can implement it just as easily, just in an app settings page instead of the systems notification section.

Would it be nice to have in iOS? Absolutely. But it’ll always come down to the devs implementing it.

I always scratch my head at people griping about too many notifications. When I install an app, if it doesn't immediately ask for the ability to send them, I proactively disable them. And if it does, I deny the. Mobile games are the worst about it, for sure I only allow badges for some apps, and even fewer get real notifications, and still fewer can break trough Focus Mode.

iOS "could" allow more granularity, but in reality, spammy apps have a solution (disable them), and apps that want to send both "real" notifications and spam/ads/marketing indiscriminately have another (uninstall or yell at the company that made it by way of lousy app store reviews).

Also they're just visually bad. The bubbles have way too much spacing. The low-contrast blurry bubbles make everything feel cluttered. When expanding a group, you'll see the same app icon repeated 20 times, while the headlines are clipped. The typography doesn't feel right: headlines are too large, text styles on individual notifications are too similar and the line heights are too small. The scheduled summary was a nice idea, but again it's blurred background on blurred backgrounds. And if all of that wasn't cluttered enough, let's make everything overlap at bottom.

Apple is usually really good at this, I don't know what this particular design team was smoking.

Only to find out that it creates new channel each time the old one is unavailable.

Yes, Viber?! F it - I disabled calls channel so I don't receive scam calls in it - why would it recreate it?

Proof: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lv5omRMhc9EBdv7YA

And in contrast to iOS there's eg. AutoNotification. So even with some very bad and intrusive apps, like my App tracking me driving and giving discounts if I'm good, that don't allow such fine settings and refuse to work without all notifications on, you can just block specific ones. In my case it's things like status information, reminders etc.

Curious: do OEM Android users also get granular app permissions? (Like turning sensors off at the app level)

Android notifications are definitely nice. I just hope they eventually get the focus functions from iOS. I know Samsung already has it but still would be nice to have a built-in version

Yeah works well until I have like 6 undismissable notifications that clutter my shit :(

Until you want to use anything AOSP. They you get to use UnifiedPush with apps like ntfy

You do realize Google Pay is not maintained by the same set of people who maintain android. The 1 notification option is pathetic, but you get what you get. The android apps are not maintained, so they fit and follow all of android's guidelines. If they were. You would be seeing material you theming in most of them where applicable.