As somebody who lives in a town with a shitload of those scooters I can say it's slightly rarer for a pickup to simply ram itself though a crowd of people in the arrogant assumption they'll move out of the way.

Scooters go where people walk... trucks usually don't

Is it just me, or does this thread feel unusually hostile towards scooters for being in fuckcars?

One of these share footpaths with pedestrians. The other two have to use their own dedicated pathways.

Only one of these is often ridden on footpaths and walking areas.

The limit makes sense.

Another bullshit cars are evil post that just ignore facts and reality.

Cars can somewhat be evil but if you want to capture the attention of people you've go to post well considered arguments.

Not crap like this.

I couldn't care less if e-scooters gain more traction but I do care if a completely unprotected vehicle can go at speeds where either the driver/rider or a pedestrian can get killed or seriously injured in the event of an accident and those have already happened where I live, with a large proportion going towards recklessness of the driver/rider.

These vehicles have been recorded travelling down highways, criss-crossing traffic, cutting in front of busses, etc, often with very gory results for every part involved.

We do not need more blood on the streets.

I drive a scooter and don't own a car. But this is the sort of braindead post that will likely drive me to block this community. It's an embarrassment to anybody who can think logically.

Then use a fucking ebike? Motorized vehicles dont belong on sidewalks, period. How the fuck are people gonna walk to work in a BUSINESS DISTRICT if there's scooters saturating the sidewalk?

Wankpanzers vs actually suitable last-mile vehicles.

Not to detract from the idea that trucks are dangerous (they most definitely are) but I’m not sure this is the best argument for this. An asshole in a truck doesn’t mean they necessarily will drive their truck down the sidewalk like what is common with assholes on two wheels. 4 wheels will do many other dangerous things. but assholes who ride their two wheels on sidewalks going top speed even at 15 without making room for pedestrians is a valid concern.

Bunch of crabs arguing against other crabs in the comments rather than reclaiming the seas for ourselves.

it's gonna be hilarious in a decade when all these trucknuts types have to give up their giant jacked up shitmobiles. vroom vroom while you can children.

I've been hit by people on Escooters 3 times in the last 4 years.

If you wanna add speed controls to cars fine, but I think the ones that cohabit the sidewalk that people are routinely driving drunk as fuck can absolutely stay speed locked.

Just wait for the EV Escalade where the fucking thing weighs in at 9000lbs....

Cars rarley drive on the sidewalk though.

Do your cities not have speed limits?

ah yes, time to build scooter lanes in pedestrian districts that pedestrians aren't allowed on and make it a crime to cross them when there's traffic. great idea.

I don't know if you really want a "swap" here, so much as a "speed limit all of these, or maybe ban two of them." If you get on a scooter with a max speed of 118MPH what you're actually doing is committing suicide.