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[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sounds like making it cheaper would be a sufficient measure.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They went up 30% over 2023… according to my installer it’s due to availability shortage… I guess someone is making them artificially more expensive because greed.

Of course they are.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't sound like price is an issue, they don't have enough people to install them and other problems.

a growing number of solar panels are sitting in storage because of various bottlenecks and barriers along the supply chain, including labour shortages, critical material delays and long interconnection queues.

[–] perestroika 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think the same.

In the country where I live, thare are regions where the grid doesn't accept new production capacity - because installed capacity covers local demand and electricity cannot get where it would be needed.

Also, planning is slow and permits are issued slowly - I have an acquaintance who created a semi-legal solar park because waiting for permits would take too long. Electrically, everything is fine, professionals wrote the project and did the job. The parish just wasn't informed, only the grid company was. Since it's a small park, it flies under the radar. :o

My own installation isn't worthy of the name "solar park", but it's entirely outside law - to avoid needing a permit, I dropped the voltage, ran thicker copper (to make things work with lower voltage) and didn't get a grid connection. As a result, I didn't need to wait for someone to give me a permit.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, this backlog seems to being caused by infrastructure and training falling short of where it should be (or solar going faster than expected). It should have been predicted and plans set in place years ago so this would all be seamless.

The concern now is that production will be throttled back and the companies doing the installations will suffer.

Here in the UK they cut the feed-in-tariff (the amount you get paid for putting spare electricity back into the grid) and that wrecked the industry overnight.

[–] Chup@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem is the origin and forced labour.

Most of the cheap panels in storage are made in China, while the European manufacturer's cannot produce at the same price. China also uses Uyghur forced labour to get those low prices https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57124636

So making them cheaper is not really an option. But it could work the other way around by adding tariffs to Chinese panels or restrict imports if there is a connection to forced labour. The US already added tariffs to Chinese solar panels last year and expanded them https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-says-solar-imports-four-southeast-asian-countries-were-dodging-china-tariffs-2022-12-02/

That sounds like a reason to size them and forbid further imports of that stuff.

[–] poVoq 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of stock, when I recently tried buying some here...

[–] silence7 2 points 1 year ago

I believe that these are largely the large bifacial panels used for utility-scale installs, not the single-sided smaller ones designed for rooftop use