Ya know, maybe the US did it. But, (and I know this is a hot take) maybe China is lying. I know that’s crazy, because China is a bastion of truth. I know that China is known the world over for being fair and balanced. Not since George Washington and the cherry tree has there been such an honest institution as the CCP. But I also feel that they could be lying. I mean who knows.
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Also, yeah? Who cares? Let's talk about the countless times Chinese agents have been caught infiltrating US systems. If we're accepting that this is just a part of spycraft in the Internet era then you don't get to bitch and whine when you catch someone else doing it
Everyone's been bitching and whining about catching others spies, though?
Who cares about American propaganda?
America accuses China of cyberattacks all the time. Yet I don't see many Americans questioning government narrative there.
OT but I love your username lol
Good. We need more of it since the CCP has made a habit of targeting US infrastructure and civilian targets.
Ah yes, because escalation has worked so well in the past.
And what do you propose a sovereign nation who's citizens, business, and assets are constantly under attack from state sponsored actors do? Bend over?
This isn't escalation. It's minimal tit-for-tat.
Constantly under attack? Remember that even back when the KMT was in power, Chiang Kai-Shek was (rightfully) suspicious that the CIA was plotting a coup to overthrow him.
Moreover, when the CCP was rising with Mao Zedong, the CIA used something like $100 million USD at the time to try to create a third group in China that could combat the other two (the KMT and CCP) with the explicit goal of undermining Mao's power.
China's existing actions don't even come close to tit-for-tat and America's continued subversive actions show that nothing has changed whatsoever. The US still thinks it can fuck around in the domestic affairs of other countries and leave unscathed without retribution.
China crying when the US does the same thing in return. Why does the CCP act so childish ?
No really why ? They are actively using exported digital and electronics goods to spy on everyone. They try to catch political dissidents outside their borders, spy on several government infrastructures and try to instigate a new form of colonialism in Africa, so what exactly are they crying about ?
I really despise these hypocrites.
How about we publish instances of such crimes by all governments and hold all of them accountable?
Well, it's just common sense to treat others the same way you expect them to treat you. In a ~~perfect~~ more pleasant world neither the west or china would feel the need to spy on each other, but we are where we are.
It’s for the cameras and their own citizens.
China and US are a reap problem to this world.
Quiet, the upper halfers are talking
Cry more, Xi
I mean doesn't this just mean at most, that the software used was developed by NSA? It's not like we haven't had our own shortage of government hacks in the last few years, it's not an insane notion to think somebody could use our tools to make it look like us.
Number 1: that's terror
Number 2: that's terror