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Most major subreddits show a decrease of between 50 and 90 percent in average daily posts and comments, when compared to a year ago. This suggests the problem is way fewer users, not the same number of users browsing less. The huge and universal dropoff also suggests that people left, either because of the changes or the protests, and they aren’t coming back.

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[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 431 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I migrated entirely to Lemmy and I don't regret it. I do miss the amount of content on Reddit, but at least I know I'm not supporting them anymore.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 143 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'll be honest I have spent the last couple months laughing my ass off at /c/risa since I jumped ship.

Yes lemmy is rough as a badgers arse but I'll take this over endless streams of how fucked we all are or wall to wall yank politics.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (22 children)

People keep saying lemmy is rough, but so far it's running just as well for me as reddit with the exception of a few hiccups. It actually has more features for navigation

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[–] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

14 year redditor and I go back and forth (only for 2 subreddits) but majority of reddit, including the news portions are completely dead. RIP r/pbsnews. I vow not to comment or submit any new links for them.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 317 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (38 children)

Because the most active contributing users left. I used to comment a lot on reddit, but I've been exclusively on Lemmy since my 3rd party app was axed.

And I've been very active here. Like, even on this alt account that I made 16 days ago, my app says my post "karma" is already higher than my reddit comment karma was from over a decade.

I feel more willing to contribute because there's a sense of community, and I'm not just providing free entertainment for a company to profit off of.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Between you and @RandalThor must cover 50% of stuff I see

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've been having fun doing it. I just post a few memes throughout the day whenever I think about it, and I also try to spread it out among some smaller communities that I want to help grow.

So, memes and a handful of communities that I'm personally interested in.

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[–] nutbiggums@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've commented more on lemmy in 3 months than the last 10 years on Reddit

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[–] teft@startrek.website 28 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I used to comment a lot on reddit

Same. I had a 15 year account with a couple hundred thousand karma and commented and posted a lot. If you piss off the people who actually use the site you will reap what you sow. Reddit should have known that since the exact scenario happened fir Digg when everyone migrated to reddit.

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[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 258 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I never thought it would be so easy to stop going on Reddit, but this place is good enough

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 89 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

good enough

IMO the users here are way more pleasant to spend time with than those on Reddit. The level of hostility in some areas of Reddit was off the charts and it seems the trolls are staying put. This definitely /mademesmile.

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[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 178 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was on reddit for 11 or 12 years. Commented several times a day. Voted 100 times or more per day. Left mid June and haven't been back once. Now I do that shit here instead.

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 54 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Turns out that Reddit is a lot easier to quit than most people claim or realize. I still end up there from web searches occasionally, because some communities just don’t exist in lemmy (also lemmy frankly sucks as a place for finding niche communities due to fragmentation and shitty search tools). But besides that, there’s nothing particularly compelling about reddit anymore.

I wonder where people are going though? They’re definitely not coming here unless they’re an adult male technology/linux nerd.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 169 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

I wanted to call bullshit ~~but they’re entirely right.~~* Comments per day took a nosedive. Now if only more hobby communities would lift off, I’d be able to abandon Reddit entirely. I’m up to my tits in Linux and privacy guides but I still know nothing of mushroom picking. Nothing!

Edit: *some users pointed out that subredditstats is no longer capable of accurately tracking comment numbers. I was wrong.

[–] dystop@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And that's exactly why lemmy needs to grow its userbase significantly before it can ever become mainstream.

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[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I’m up to my tits in Linux and privacy guides

omg I'm seriously loling rn 😆 there's so much fucking linux on this site. ive been using linux for ~14 years (exclusively for 2), and i have no idea what most linux posts are going on about, nor do i know anyone with a linux pc in my real life. us on lemmy have somehow managed to find each other.

i give it a few months until i have my own instance, a pi hole (whatever tf that is), and completely blocked google from tracking me in any way.

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[–] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for the giggle. Coffee wasn't helping that much but the thought of someone just standing near some mushrooms and dramatically throwing their hands in the air pepped me right up

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 102 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Content creators left.

You lose those, you're fucked. A full fckin 80-90% of any given user base are consumers / commenters and they follow content. Creators are a keystone species.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 29 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Reddit seemed to view users like every other social media app without realizing that a lot of the successful apps compensate those who add value to the app.

The official app seems ok for consuming content, but it was dogshit for meaningful interaction.

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[–] gogorocketpower@reddthat.com 99 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The completely unblockable hegetsus ads were really what made me switch to Apollo from the official Reddit app. Then killing third party apps made me leave for good. Bravo, Reddit

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 year ago (8 children)

They could have done so much. Force third party apps to use their ads or make a reddit premium subscription. Instead they decided to destroy all their free labor.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They didn't have to force them, third party devs asked them to let them use their ads and Reddit told them no!

[–] Quill7513 26 points 1 year ago

There was an appropriate balance of API fees, returning adds in the API calls, and charging subscription fees to remove ads that would have generated maximum profit by milking the ecosystem from multiple places without ever pissing off users bad enough to make them leave. Complain? Oh sure, users would have done that plenty. On reddit. Where it made reddit monet. Reddit instead elected to simply shit the bed.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 73 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Honestly, I’ve enjoyed Lemmy far more since joining than I had been enjoying reddit for at least a couple years.

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[–] PorthosAteMyCheese@startrek.website 72 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If you open Reddit without an account on a browser, it will automatically create a username for you when you are on site now. Hopped on to look at a post on a semi active subreddit and saw I was somehow logged in, but it was an auto generated account name. Wonder if they are trying to boost numbers that way as well

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Fuck reddit. Bitches shoulda let me keep my Apollo.

[–] kale@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I haven't posted once since RIF was disabled. I think my account is up to 16 years now. I've been on a subreddit if Google brought me there, but I don't browse anymore.

Jerboa is pretty similar to RIF so it's been great.

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I would probably still post on reddit if I could do it from my phone in an app that actually works instead of being a glorified ad platform. They killed 3rd party apps to bully users to switch to the official app to boost the usage stats to have a better angle to haggle for their IPO. Problem is that the official app is just excruciatingly painful to use if you are accustomed to a proper reddit browsing tool.

The backhanded, sneaky way they did it with all the denial and lies was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Instead of being upfront and calling a spade a spade, they commited to a hostile takeover and removed all doubt that reddit is going to stay a platform for the people.

If they would have been honest from the get-go I might have continued posting.

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[–] freebread@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago

We did it Lemmy!

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (8 children)

r/AskReddit posts or day

https://i.imgur.com/sNJEHHQ.jpeg

What's going on there? Really the api change did this?

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really the api change did this?

Kind of. It wasn't just the change itself, but also how it was done.

Reddit showed complete lack of care about its own userbase (specially blind people and moderators) and that it's an extremely scummy company, even for company standards. It could've pulled the unreasonable API prices to kill off 3PA but it would need smarter people in charge of the decision than the ones who did it.

[–] BaronVonBort@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m no business expert, but the thing is I was a heavy user. Had they made the API changes reasonable and worked with the devs, I would have been happy to pay for the service i used so much (I already paid for the app, what’s a few more bucks a month?)

But them to charge such exorbitant fees, be dicks to users and creators, then treat those who were upset like the bad guy? That’s a spectacularly bad approach to business.

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[–] Draghetta@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Their official app is utter garbage, if it weren’t I may have stayed. People like me have decided that if the Reddit experience has to be so bad, it’s better not to be on reddit at all.

Imagine your favourite burger joint from now on only allowed you to enter from the back alley where it smells like piss and walls are mouldy - then once you get in all burgers have an added layer of spam and Nutella that you can’t opt out of.

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[–] 99nights@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I used to use reddit everyday. Now it's like once a week, same as lemmy too. Now I just surf FB MP in my spare time and watch YouTube..

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I never participated on Reddit, but I used it to check in on tech stuff and other various interests. I didn't spend a lotta time on it, but it was definitely the platform that I spent time on the most.

When all the third-party stuff started happening, I decided to take the principled stand and quit using it, but I was worried it was gonna be difficult.

I was wrong. It was super easy ditching it.

Even though it was the "social" platform I was spending the most time on, it also felt like the easiest to replace—mostly because that content could be found elsewhere. This kinda made me realize that Reddit doesn't have a moat, and it confirmed what I knew all along—the value of the platform is derived from its users. So when there's enough collective will to do something (in this case, fight against network effects), it's incredibly powerful.

So I used this free tool I built called Reddit Account Manager to gather all my subscriptions, bookmarks, etc., and then Power Delete Suite to delete all my accounts.

I noticed that my time spent online in general had also decreased.

10/10 would recommend.

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[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah I went to subredditstats.com and checked out a few of the subreddits with a lot of subscribers. They all show a huge drop both in number of comments and number of posts per day. This is the first time I saw some hard evidence that people have moved away, and it's a lot more than I thought.

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[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I refuse to use the reddit app. Theres a lot of features missing that I require.

[–] Disgustoid@startrek.website 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Making the font size adjustable requires hundreds of millions of dollars of investment! /s

I'm not surprised at the statistics. Redditors using third party apps were probably more likely to be hardcore users and contributors and not just consumers/lurkers. Taking away those apps without a suitable replacement was a totally braindead move, especially when your official app is inferior to almost every single third party app out there.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I was a daily heavy user of Reddit. I was an Eternian and a Centurion. I haven't spent an hour total on Reddit since July 1.

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[–] June@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Other than Lemmy, where did users go?

[–] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Outside lol.

I'm honestly curious too.

They obviously didn't all come here. I wonder how many we're talking about. Maybe they just sort of dispersed into the various other social media sites?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the vast majority of "users" either came to Lemmy, Kbin, or Mastodon. There were a surprisingly small amount of users that weren't bots, and were content generators, either in OC, or comments.

I suspect many, if not most, of the bots got turned off, only to be replaced by enshittified bots. It's way too obvious who's a bot on Reddit now. Prior to the migration, it was much more difficult to identify a bot over there.

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[–] Donger@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

It's easier to quit now that all the good posters have already quit.

[–] Potato_in_my_anus@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Well, they did say that about only the 10% of users were the ones who make comments and engage with the communities, and guess what, that 10% did use more likely than not, the third party apps. I've been a redditor for more than 16 years with a lot of karma, I deleted all my accounts but one, the oldest I had. I've been back for a couple of niche communities but I haven't commented nor upvoted anything.

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[–] RagingInside@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (11 children)

So far lemmy sucks for video game news.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

So start posting links to video game news. That's the whole point

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[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

I haven’t been back. I also blocked it on PiHole and Kagi, so they don’t even show up in my search results. Reddit is dead to me.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I used to use reddit every day for prob a half hour per day. Now i get on reddit for 2 minutes once a week to copy a podcast announcement to /c/monero@monero.town and thats it. All my reddit usage went to lemmy.

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[–] s1ndr0m3@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It doesn't help that they are using facebook-like tactics to try and force/coerce you to download and use their app. I recently was trying to find help getting through a difficult part of a game. Reddit seemed to be where most of the good user discussions were at. Reddit's mobile page would give me a pop-up stating that this community was not "trusted" and that I need to view on the app or go to the Reddit front page. There was no option to ignore. Trying to close the pop-up would just send me to the front page. Luckily, I know about old.reddit. That's going to go away eventually though.

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[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

And that's WITH the GPT bots

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