In my opinion, the worst part about new cars is that they are essentially tracking devices and some of them can be remotely controlled.
Any suggestions on how to get a car that doesn't track you and was built post-2010?
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Mazda MX5. I have a 2019 and it's simple. Heated seats, blindspot mirrors, backup camera, led headlights. Absolute joy to drive.
No other tech that tracks you as far as I'm aware.
Why do you think it doesn't track you? It has voice recognition in the infotainment, so it has microphones. I guess it probably won't have mobile data connection since they require you to connect your phone or take it to a dealer for infotainment updates. So might be safe as long as you don't allow it to use your phone data when its connected via Bluetooth or do over the air updates or take it to a dealer for repairs/updates.
I'm not sure if car manufactures do it yet but samsung is known to require data dumps before providing spare parts for phones to 3rd party repair shops, so maybe car manufactures could do that as well?
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There is a website that you can opt out of having certain data tracked.
But I imagine insurance companies will use it as an excuse to raise your rates if you opt out
There is also the issue of companies pinky-promising that they won't track you but still call home.
But if no other alternatives are available, this is good to know.
This one sparks joy.
This one (ETA: my '97 Prelude) sparks so much joy.
I so very much preferred speedometers like that which had every 10 marked rather than every 20 like so many seem to do
The best looking dials on a dashboard I have ever seen is the dashboard from the Saab 9000 CSE.
This isn't exacty what I remember, but close enough:
I love the green and orange colors, the car diagram, the turbo, temp and fuel dials are just great.
Granted I was a kid when we had that car, but the colors were beautiful
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I love the potential of a digital dash.
I hate the wasted potential of actual digital dashes.
Let me fuckin customize it.
Let me put whatever gauges I want wherever I want. I know that the data is available over the CAN bus, let me fuckin see it.
Dynamically change the layout if something important happens I need to keep an eye on, but wouldn't normally need to worry about
My Audi typically displays the outdoors temp on the digital dash, which is convenient. Except when there is any warning light on, which takes its place. Want to take a quick glance at the temp? Well right now it's "low on windshield wiper fluid" degrees outside.
Also why the fuck does this shitty dash scream at me about warnings when I get in the car but not out. By the time I get home I will have completely forgotten about the windshield wiper. How is "also display reminders after shutting the engine off" not the obvious implementation?
Even more infuriating when not only is it not customisable, but they layout they do use is just... bad in a thousand different tiny ways.
For example, the tachometer and speedometer on my vehicle have two display modes. The traditional looking dials and a more compact vertical wheel that leaves more room in the middle of the display for other things.
...but those other things are almost always either useless (I don't need to see a little picture of the vehicle I'm driving), or actively worse (the media info screen actually shows fewer characters in the larger mode).
It's not unusable, it's just varying levels of awkward or useless in dozens of little aspects.
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No, the top one sparks gasoline. And the bottom one sparks ... I don't know how electric cars work.
Touch screens have no business in dashboards. I don't care how sleek it looks to replace all the physical buttons. You have to look at a touch screen to use it. That alone makes them entirely unfit for the purpose. Physical buttons that can be identified by touch and provide tactile feedback are the only interfaces that make any fucking sense at all.
This fees like something so obvious that I cannot understand how we got here.
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Hard disagree. It is SO much faster for me to read a digital number readout than a analogue one.
This isn't touch screen controls (which are terrible). It's a readout.
I will never put a light mode display in my car. I will take an analogue dial over something that burns spots into my retinas when I'm trying to drive. Even with dark mode, the amount of ambient light coming off that thing is gonna bother me at night.
We need to downgrade everybody's headlights while we're talking about personal preference too. If the car behind me has lights that are so bright they cast a shadow over my own headlights, they're too bright.
Yeah I thought since I'm old I'd be like gimme the old way, but I would actually prefer simplicity for regular commutes.
But I feel like not even car companies want me to have simplicity so they can monetize more doodads
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I am partial to the windshield projection style. It is truly fantastic for keeping your eyes on the road while seeing your speed
The two-tiered cluster of my Civic really grew on me. The speedometer is up really high so it's almost always in your line of sight.
The Civic's split dash was apparently generally hated, but I really liked it, for just that reason... The year after mine they switched it back to a single cluster, which I think is unfortunate
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I hate that cars are just smart phones on wheels now. Do any auto makers still make cars with the old style and not all these screens and crap?
I was so happy when I saw some modern KIAs use analog controls.
Then I checked KIAs reliability and safety score and died.
I've put 80k miles on one Kia and just got a Hyundai with 100k miles on it. I've not once had something need replacement that wasn't an expected wear item at about the expected interval. I also witnessed a Kia get pinned against the median on the beltline by a speeding car that lost control and while it was definitely totaled, the occupants were uninjured.
So my annecdotal experience has been quite positive
Watch out for flying USB drives though.
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watching 80s and 90s anime has given me a soul-deep admiration for mechanical dials of any kind. I like high-tech shit, but it's gotta have low-tech dials, or I'm out.
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I get having a digital cluster, because you can display way more information than using analog gauges.
Put it in front of the driver.
Also, make the text bigger.
So many displays have tiny, hard to read text that could easily be twice as tall and wide without even impacting the blank space that separates them.
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Honestly I'd kill for a digital dashboard that easy to read. Most are way worse.
Well tough luck, you're getting one with roman numerals!
Iโd kill for one that was positioned so I could see it. I keep my steering wheel low and my hands cover the speedometer.
I guess I'm in the minority: I prefer to see my speed as a number instead of a dial.
Yes, it does need to be in front of the driver.
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No idea what that bottom driver is doing, but it indeed does not spark joy
Lmao, high beams, no seatbelt at 108kph for a 30kph speed limit. Ooof.
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I don't understand how anyone can buy a Tesla. The lack of a dashboard + the only interface being a tablet alone are a deal breaker for me.
You're being sold a feature that is really just massive cost cuttings playing impostor as a luxury feature at a premium with 100x worse usability.
And on top of that, at any moment, they (Tesla) can remove pretty much any feature they feel like in a push update, which they have done... Personally, I think removing existing features from already sold products should be illegal, flat out
My car doesn't have any of that fancy crap, but the fuel gage is an lcd and I hate it so much. Like it should be fine, except it just doesn't work at certain temperatures and I live in an area where that means half the year.
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