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hey nerds, I'm getting myself a new personal laptop as a treat, but I very much do not want windows 11 shitting it up. Is there a linux distro with caveman-compatible instructions for installation and use? I want to think about my OS as little as possible while actually using it.

I've got one friend who uses mint, but I've also seen memes dunking on it so who knows. I actually really only know what I've seen from you all shitposting in other communities

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[–] rodbiren@midwest.social 2 points 13 minutes ago

I've done dozens of distros and Linux mint is the most familiar, unexciting, and stable one I have found. Ignore the hate. Real Linux fans don't care how you participate in open source, other than being toxic. Consequently, do whatever you want and install whatever seems like it would be something you'd want to use.

Id highly suggest having a separate hard drive for Linux as it can be easy to break dual boot if you don't know what you are doing. Last thing you want to do is panic and decide you need to reinstall Windows.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

I dare you to install Gentoo

[–] punchmesan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 38 minutes ago

You got a lot of distro recommendations from across the spectrum and it's honestly hats to go wrong with any of them. It's mostly a matter of preference. As such I'll give you two pieces of advice:

  1. Set up a multi-boot flash drive (assuming you're currently using Windows, YUMI is a great utility) so that your can try a bunch of them and see what jives with you most. A great feature of Linux installers of that you can actually run the entire OS, full-featured, from the ISO. So grab a whole slew of them, throw them on the flash drive, and spend some time taking them for a spin.
  2. Do your research on compatibility. Laptop makers often don't make Linux drivers, so the latest hardware has compatibility problems until the community covers the gap. There are also some laptop manufacturers that have Linux in mind when they make their products, like System 76 and Framework.

Good luck! IMO getting into Linux for the first time is a fun journey. Enjoy it!

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago

When first coming from Windows, starting with Mint is the safest bet for a good transition because things will work pretty much as you expect them to, and there's a very helpful forum if you have any questions. But I always say to try several distros and Desktop Environments to see how you like them. Everyone is different and it's all a matter of preference.

I suggest that once you've got whatever distro you decided on up and running, install a virtual machine software such as Boxes (very simple) or Virtual Box (a little more complicated but with more options). Then just download various distros and make VMs for them to try them out easily. Have fun!

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I always recommend to beginners ElementaryOS. The name being coincidental. It is a relatively simple looking but very very elegant and polished interface. Give it a try.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Good old I can't believe it's not macos

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 6 points 3 hours ago

I've got one friend who uses mint, but I've also seen memes dunking on it so who knows. I actually really only know what I've seen from you all shitposting in other communities

Every distro gets shit on in memes, because each distro does things its own way that some don't agree with. As a new user, most of that doesn't matter much, the biggest changes between distros are how stuff works in the background. What matters more is your choice of Desktop Environment (DE). Essentially "the coat of paint on top". Most distros offer a couple different options when downloading the ISO, or when installing it.

I'd reccomend starting out by trying GNOME and KDE Plasma (if they're easily available for your distro), with GNOME being slightly more macOS-like, and KDE being somewhat similar in feel to Windows. Those are "the big two" DEs, but there's plenty of other options available if you don't like them.

As for distros, whatever works for you is the option you should go with. There's only two distros I recommend against using, Ubuntu (/ close derivatives) and Manjaro. Ubuntu is becoming extremely corporate, going against the "spirit" of a Linux distro. There's "Ubuntu Pro", a subscription for security updates, and "snap", an "alternative to" flatpak that forces you on Ubuntu managed repositories, along with many other issues. Manjaro is often marketed as "an easy Arch-based distro", but is in fact only very loosely derived from Arch. This combined with Manjaro team's inability to maintain the distro properly, causes nothing but issues.

As for every other distro, if it's being updated, and it works for you, then it's a great option. Because that second one is very personal, there is no "single best Linux distro". I would personally suggest to check out Mint and Fedora, those are often great options.

As someone else mentioned, with a "new laptop", hardware compatibility may be an issue. Most distros allow you to try them off the USB before installing, that's probably a good idea.

[–] Integrate777@discuss.online 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Go ahead with mint. It's the only distro I know with a fully featured setup wizard that holds your hand through the entire process. I am confident anyone who has used computers can use it.

But honestly, most modern distros are about as difficult as picking up an iOS/android phone for the first time. There are different ways of doing things, but they're still phones and can't be too different anyway. Same with mint, it's just a computer, it isn't all that different.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

It's the only distro I know with a fully featured setup wizard that holds your hand through the entire process.

Ubuntu, Fedora, Nobara(Fedora fork by GloriousEggroll of proton-ge), Garuda Arch, Pop!OS. Those are just the few I've personally fiddled with.

Highly recommend Garuda, Nobara and Pop!, in that order, for gaming.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 13 points 6 hours ago

Mint is one of the best bets for beginners, it's very similar to windows 10 UI wise by default and generally very user friendly

[–] syaochan@feddit.it 14 points 7 hours ago

Go with Mint, it's my daily drive on both my laptop and HTPC. If you choose the regular edition Ubuntu based you have also hardware enablement (hwe) kernels which could be useful on newer hardware.

[–] penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

Fedora KDE. It's easy to setup, modern, customizable and fast. Second would be Mint, it's only flaws is that it ships an older kernel (might be a pain) and uses X11 (insecure).

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

ITT: 100 people naming their favourite distro and making that fit whatever OP needs.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 2 hours ago

So far, people are being pretty reasonable. Most are recommending mint, ubuntu or similars, and no one recommended arch to someone with basic linux/computing skills. I have to say I'm impressed. Restored my faith in the community.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

That's numerous threads every day in every Linux-related forum. A lot of people cannot seem to distinguish a sincere recommendation based on stated needs frombjust the opportunity to proclaim their allegiance to their favorite.

[–] Lotsen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 hours ago

You can go with mint. It's a solid choice. I prefer opensuse tumbleweed since I find it easier to work with. It also has a great selection of desktop enviroments witch is the thing you interact with and what you use to manage your open programs. If you want something like modern windows you can go with KDE or cinnamon and if you want something more minimal and windoes XP like you can use xfce.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Generally I agree with everyone else, Linux Mint is great.

However, if you really want to not worry at all, you could just buy a laptop from e.g. Tuxedo or System76. They come with Linux preinstalled (I think in the case of Tuxedo at least, you even have a choice of which Linux Distro?), and are guaranteed to have no hardware "difficulties" with Linux, i.e. even if you put another distro on it, you won't encounter driver issues.

(Those have become very rare anyways, but do put a damper on the "Firsttime Linux Experience" if you do encounter them...)

[–] Lotsen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

You can also buy from novacustoms and get Linux installed and you get to have coreboot as the bios

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

HolyOS, Hannah Montana linux, AmongOS

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago

How about serenity OS

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ubuntu. There are mixes of it but out of the box Ubuntu is about as straightforward a dist to install as possible and it is well supported.

That said "new laptop" and Linux are not always a match made in heaven. You might try it from a boot stick and confirm that things like the GPU, touch screen, touchpad, fingerprint reader, USB C / Lightning all work properly.

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Ubuntu is horrible these days, including most derivatives that change nothing but the DE. If you want Ubuntu, use Mint instead. There's plenty of other options available, like Fedora, Pop!_OS, etc.

As for testing, most distribution installers allow you to try them without installing first. No need to set up anything separate for that.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well, except that they have consistently been the one that has and installs proper drivers for a variety of hardware I've used it with. Many - many test units over the years with either brand new or older and obscure hardware that not a single distro I could find recognized, nearly every time it was Ubuntu that came through for me. Including my current laptop. I have been aware of the progression toward a corporate type atmosphere with them, though, and I don't like it. I'm thinking about seeing if plain ol' raw Debian now has the proper drivers because if it does, I may replace my Kubuntu with it. But that doesn't change the fact that they've delivered when all others failed.

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 1 points 1 hour ago

In the past, I would've agreed. These days, hardware compatibility for anything except the very latest is pretty much the same among distros.

[–] Fashim@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

Personally I would recommend Fedora, most distros people have recommended here works.

I had less issues installing Fedora on a new laptop than I did with the win11 and win10 attempts, I'm never switching back to windows

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

The process for installation is more or less the same for all of them.

Linux Mint and PopOS are the "go to" suggestions. I really don't like the way either of them look. I'm partial to GNOME for aesthetics and ease of use.

Bazzite comes with most of the stuff you will want pre-loaded, and also the cool Steam Deck Gamescope interface. It's the only one I've used with seamless background updates like you might be accustomed to on Android or iOS. That's my recommendation.

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[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Linux mint, Debian, Fedora

PopOS if you are into gaming

[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How is Debian beginner friendly? Quite far from it imho

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Have you used it in recent years?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 8 minutes ago

I have to agree, to the extent that it is very vanilla and missing a lot of things a new user may want but don't know they need or don't want to take the time to figure out how to make it work.

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