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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"All I want to do is exploit struggling people for far more than my property is worth. Is that so wrong?!"

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Even more ironic is that the "professional" landlords/property holding companies hire property managers who do literally all the work, including both the upkeep for the house and interaction with the tenants. Like, what exactly do you contribute at that point? What would change practically if I hired the property manager directly with the money I would be paying you? Especially when the most common pro-landlord argument (used by landlords themselves) is that they fix things around the house and maintain it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"You expect me to unclog a toilet?!"

Yes. That's exactly what I expect a landlord to do. And if you don't live in the same city as your rental property, maybe that shouldn't be allowed.

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[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 108 points 1 year ago (22 children)

You guys are joking and everything, but that's what they actually think

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

"Fix my AC!"

Particularly ironic that this is being framed as "unreasonable" because landlords themselves directly argue that their upkeep of the house justifies the significant upcharge they take from tenants. Like, even if we argued that landlord as a career is 100% acceptable and valid, that would literally be your job, would be like a professional chef complaining about people saying "make me food!"

[–] And009@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Had a cook who literally complained about receiving too many different kinds of orders and the customers were not even in a hurry

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[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Historically people with the title "lord" have had it so hard.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 21 points 1 year ago

The Gaylords would like a word

[–] ComradeSpood@lemmyunchained.net 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even the father of capitalism thought landlords were parasites that only leeched off the economy

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 year ago

My old landlord refused to fix our water heater, the leaking roof causing mould and water damage, the outlets that were falling off, the broken light switches that didn't work, the ceiling light that was flickering and and literally hanging by the wires. All for $2000/month + utilities. Then he kicked us out because he wanted to sell the place, but now he can't sell it because no bank will touch it with the amount of water damage it has lmao.

Oh ya, can't forget the 5 times he's banged on our door threatening us with his lawyer because he stole $100 from us, we asked for it back, but he refused to answer our calls, so we had to wait 12 fucking months before our lease was up and we started paying month to month for us to subtract the $100 he owed us for 12 months from the payment.

[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel so bad for mine I’ve raised the amount I tip them every month from ~12% to 20%. You should, too - they struggle so hard.

(Lol)

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[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'll get your rent when you fix this damn door!

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Your know, I guess experiences vary widely, but the landlords I know don't fit all the hate. For instance, one of my employees decided to rent her house instead of selling it when her family needed a bigger one. They've been renting to the same family for a decade or more without ever raising the rent. The family could not afford to buy any house, let alone the one they're in, so renting allows them to live in a kind of place they couldn't afford otherwise. My employee has let them skip rent a few times when times were hard.

I know a few similar stories. Maybe it's different with people who own apartment buildings or whatever, but I just don't see being a landlord as inherently bad. Like anything else, you can do it ethically or unethically.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like a problem with the price of housing, which is a not entirely unrelated issue.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, for sure - I live in southern California, which has about as high a cost of real estate as you're going to find, but that isn't caused by landlords. I mean, if you bought a new car and were selling your old one, you'd probably sell it for whatever the market would pay, right? Maybe if you're really well off you'd just give it to someone, but most of us are going to sell for the going rate. It's the same with houses. If I can easily get $500k for my house, I'm not going to list it for $400k just to be nice - I could use the money.

Do people feel like it's inherently more laudable to sell their house than to rent it? It seems like, as long as they're not gouging, they're doing more of a service by renting to people who can't afford to buy, and also covering all the costs of repairs and risk of damage that renters don't have to worry about.

I just don't get the hate broadly, though the management company who ran my daughter's apartment complex were assholes.

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[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My last land lord raised rent by 2.5x after the first year. When we moved out he kept the full security deposit because "the inside of the oven was dirty"

Your mileage may vary

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[–] ConfuzedAZ@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

I'm a land lord, did exactly what people say we all did. 15 years ago I bought two 200k homes for 30k each (30k was the down payment) the houses are worth over 600k each now.. they are an income plan for my kids so they don't have to necessarily worry about taking a better paying job instead of something they want to do. Probably a little naive now. But I run the houses at a bare minimum profit just so the government won't come after me due running a loss on my taxes. I have raised rent only enough to do that. I pay for a property management firm to take care of the properties so that the tenants have 24 hour response to issues. I've had the same tenants for 12 years in both properties. Every 4 years or so I have one of the rooms that the tenants want renovated. It's a right off so doesn't costa fortune ava the house gets slowly updated. Not every landlord is an asshole. Some of us play the long game without screwing people. But I realize that I am part of the problem. I am part of the reason for less supply in the market. But selling my properties will make my children's lives less secure and I'm not willing to do that. So i do partially deserve some of the blame.

Edited to add down payment info.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe it's different with people who own apartment buildings or whatever

Yes. My landlord is literally a corporation.

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[–] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ours put our rent up 25% so just because I was upset I paid this month's rent a week late and they were complaining they needed the money to pay their montgage... Bitch please I don't wanna hear about your financial problems

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[–] ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeh I support LGBT...

Landlords

GOP

Billionaires

The police

😎

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I run a small senior living complex in a rural town. We have the cheapest rent in town. We scrape by, trying to make improvements here and there. They are maintained though. We seriously charge hundreds of dollars less than the next closest complex in the area. We refused to raise our rent in the past 4 years dispite rising taxes and utility bills. Most our tenants are widows/widowers living off a fixed income. We are either too nice or bad business owners because that "fix my AC" One always stings and reaches into my personal budget. And by "personal budget" I mean I eat ramen for a couple weeks.

Anyway, I actually feel like this meme. Other than my tenants are usually happy. Occasionally we get someone who is just never happy no matter what you do. I know all the other complexes are owned by one company essentially creating a monopoly and they have exploited this town. We get calls from people crying because they will be homeless.

[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For every one good landlord like you there's 1mil slumlords that don't think you even need AC, or think that black mould isnt a health hazard.

Bless you.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the model of housing as a business that is the problem, no matter how benevolent an operator may try to be. The market is designed to eliminate you as competition and reward the exploitative monopolistic company.

More importantly is whether or not you are or would ever act as a firewall against competing (or at this point any) housing development.

Like if a subsidized public housing for seniors opened up next door to your complex offering rates at or below your own: would you support it given this persistent at risk population?

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I'm a landlord. I'm priced WELL below the market because my tenant is state patrol and is a great guy and a good family. I haven't raised his rent ever. I will raise it when my HOA goes up next year, but that's only to help cover my fees. If keep the rent so I can pick the right renters that is compatible with me. I rather have a good renter than a few bucks more a month.

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[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 26 points 1 year ago

So brave… thank you for your sacrifice!

Now fix my (your) AC.

[–] dynamo@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

ah, the typical landlord. A good example of a useless "jobs" that litter the world

[–] Transcriptionist@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (43 children)

Oh, the hard, hard life of the rent-seeker who is stupidly greedy and unwilling to lose a little bit of profit to pay somebody else - like an agency - to take care of all the work and manage their assets, so instead of making money purely from having money without lifting a finger, they have to suffer the indignity of actually working a few hours a week like poor people.

The pain and suffering must be unbearable...

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

Tenants do have rights. If the AC is owned by the landlord and part of the lease is on the landlord to fix it. And rent control is to keep rent from reaching New York closet for $6K levels.

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It's missing the wad of 100 dollar bills to wipe away the tears of this hardship

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Paranormal story here..

I have the first good landlords I've had in my entire life. We have a clean, decent townhouse - two stories w/ unfinished basement. It's in a safe residential/school zone, right behind my work, and he's renting it to us for several hundred less than he could be getting based on other similar rentals. I guess he grew up here and has sentimental attachment, and just wants it taken care of. He purchased the connecting unit and is renting it equally low to other great tenants who take care of it. Guy is a defense lawyer and doesn't need to squeeze every drop out of it I guess.

Him and his wife are super considerate of our time and our needs, get us nursery/greenhouse gift cards in the spring and Christmas baskets every year. They're fucking anomaly and it's absolutely perplexing after two decades of shitty landlords.

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember being so disgusted when Reddit had a sub Reddit start for "landlordlove" or similar. So ridiculous. No I don't give a fuck if your life is hard while you're making everyone else's life twice as hard. Not my fault you chose this as a living. Get out if you don't like it.

[–] Draft@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You fell for a satirical subreddit, it was also for hate of landlords.

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

loveforlandlords was a satire subreddit until the mod (community terms here) "gave it to a rentoid", at which point the satire community migrated to loveforlandchads. I don't know if the loveforlandlords sub is currently pro landlord or not, don't care since i left, but at one point, I do think it it WAS a serious community of landlords who were frustrated at being hated. Maybe i fell for satire, maybe the community has had a few to many changes of hand to track, maybe its something in the middle idk.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Friend tried renting some property in FL. It was a miserable experience with tenants who constantly trashed the places, having to hound them for rent while she had to pay the mortgage on time, etc. She eventually sold it and said "Never again."

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[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Landlord struggle lmao. Must be nice living off of other peoples paycheques, ngl

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[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Pretty much. I will say, although it’s extremely rare to find, but does exist (I know a landlord like this): some landlords get into landlording to try to make places affordable for others, meaning they barely take a cut for themselves. These are not the people you see raising rent at every opportunity. I’m also not refering to any landlord who decides to take “section 8” housing, as some of them are also predatory. To that end, her struggle is the same struggle as her renters, trying to make ends meet, herself. She owns her own “place” but her “place” is on wheels, making her technically a homeless landlord. I doubt that she is the only landlord like this in the US but as a long-time renter, I’m well aware she’s in the minority of landlords. Most landlords do so to earn a profit, the worst offenders being for-profit corporations who own many properties. Some landlords do try to help others, and I really wish there were more like them. I think the majority of landlords simply try to “price what the market will bear” which is usually “increase rent as much as we can by law” with the excuse that “we, the landlords take on all the risk so we need all the profit”.

I would love to see more “worker co-op” style landlording, although I don’t know how that would work techncially.

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[–] _wintermute@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Username checks out. Also fuck landlords if this was posted unironically.

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