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[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 157 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

~~It was a McDonald's customer who turned him in.~~ (Edit: the article I read has been updated)

But I can't help but find the whole thing really suspicious. In his possession they found a gun, silencer, and three-page hand written manifesto.

Who handwrites an essay before going out to kill someone? That just feels hard to believe.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 104 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The pictures of Mangione don't even match the other pictures they've put out of the suspect. Dude's brow line is completely different.

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 94 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I low key have been wondering since the press conference last night if they used facial recognition software to find him.

They said he had multiple fake IDs on him. I find it crazy that he took so many precautions in New York and was just walking around with all that in his pockets.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 91 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Right? This guy they picked up had a ghost gun, silencer, and manifesto on him despite all the other careful planning? I mean, I know criminals very often fuck up in very stupid ways but who is dumb enough to use a ghost gun, but not dispose of it after using it for a crime? And also walk around with basically an admission of guilt? Something is fishy.

The NYPD will walk into his interrogation room and conveniently walk out with an admission of guilt that they totally didn't use "enhanced interrogation techniques" to get.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Something is fishy.

Yeah, they need a fall guy to dissuade copycats, so they're going to frame the first close match they find.

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[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 29 points 1 week ago

They are deff running serious fake news op on pinning it on this guy...

But it still doesn't make sense to me. Do all of that just to be picked at fastslop after cashier snitches on you?

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also he had the same fake ID he used to check into the hostel? What the heck is this guy doing? While it seemed likely he would be caught eventually, disposing of the ID, his guns, the manifesto, and staying in his basement for a while would be by far the best course of action, not going to a McDonalds and eating it inside

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

He probably also had some copies of The Sims on him

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the US, where people dont follow instructions like robots. He was actually found carrying three EA Game Cards.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (7 children)

But I can’t help but find the whole thing really suspicious.

He was America's Most On TV Human for the last week. I'm not shocked someone recognized him. And its not like he was picked off a bus in Manhattan at random. The guy was traced all the way to Pennsylvania.

He probably could have gotten away if he'd laid low for another week or two. But this absolutely sounds like a guy with some serious mental health issues who was not thinking ten steps ahead as everyone in the fandom wanted to believe. He was just some angry 20-year-old doing a more newsworthy version of a school shooting, not The Leftist Jackal plotting elaborate Mission Impossible style assassinations.

Who handwrites an essay before going out to kill someone?

The same kind of person who signs their bullet casings.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Carrying all of the evidence related to the crime several days later is very out of character with the careful preparation and execution of the crime itself, and a little too convenient for an open/shut case. The ruling class absolutely needs to crush someone very publicly right now out of fear of copycats.

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[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He wasn't traced there though? They just found a guy that conveniently had all that shit on him like come on

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He wasn’t traced there though?

He was traced through the use of his fake ID and through security camera footage along the route he traveled. There were also plenty of sightings (some less reliable than others) that were coming into the police nationally. The tip off in Altoona was almost certainly not the only one made. He was observed on a cab security camera. He was sighted at a bus depot. And there were a few other data points police alluded to that weren't made public. That rapidly narrowed down where he could have gone to next.

Not enough people wearing a mask in New York or Pennsylvania that it didn't make him stand out. That, and he was tall, and the upper part of his face was all over the news for days straight.

That he had all his shit on him was unfortunate. But even if he'd dumped it, if it was on an observed route it would have just been one more data point for police to follow. Guy fought the law and the law won.

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[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's the handwritten bit that I find hardest to believe, though. The guy studied AI at university and was involved in Game Design classes. He was a tech guy. Nobody who's that intimate with computers would choose to convey their message across three hand-written pages. It just seems really odd.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Nobody who’s that intimate with computers would choose to convey their message across three hand-written pages.

Seems like a guy with a background in tech and a significant concern over his privacy would be exactly the kind of person to keep his heretical most views on paper rather than online. The guy had basically dropped off the web for months prior to the assassination.

[–] fuzzyspudkiss@midwest.social 28 points 1 week ago

Someone in IT would be intimately familiar with why you would want something like a manifesto to be offline.

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Being an IT guy makes you not use real pens or paper? The amount of cope for this guy is unreal. That's just stupid.

Handwriting is more intimate and allows for better expression through the script. For something so personal, it sounds perfect. I love handwriting, do it regularly and I've been intimate with computers more than once ;)

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[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

I prefer hand written notes for all my tickets and tasks I need to do...physically writing it helps memory retention way better then reading stuff on a screen.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

The rest of y'all really not have a few manifestos just laying around?

Who handwrites an essay before going out to kill someone? That just feels hard to believe.

The kind of person who writes a message on the bullet casing (and fully expects to get caught).

[–] droporain@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah beyond reasonable id agree lol

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

You might say that there is reasonable doubt it's the same guy

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From AP News:

In a news release, police say officers made contact with the man who was then arrested on unrelated charges

Same old shit, just come up with something like “he took 31 minutes in the dining area so we got out the batons”

[–] JayDee@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Article in question. AP news has like 5 articles all about this single investigation.

The 'unrelated charges' were possessing fake IDs and an unregistered firearm.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But this opens a whole new can of worms. You’re telling me he was smart enough to evade capture for a week, but wasn’t smart enough to ditch the ghost gun he had used in the murder?

It smells like turned off body cams and planted evidence.

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago

This. I don't believe it. Why wouldn't he at least stash the gun and papers somewhere instead of keeping that shit on him?

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good luck getting the reward money, ya fucking rat!

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 10 points 1 week ago

that handle is really printing now huh

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago
[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

"Sell out your own, cattle!

Maybe we'll throw you a milkbone!"

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The cops responded to a call saying "Yeah I think he's here," believed it and arrived in force within the time a person spends at a MacDonald (was the suspect playing in the ball pit?) and arrested him, finding the incriminating gun and silencer he had no reason to keep, along with a "manifesto"" which is a rarity among sane people but shooters have to have one according to cops?

Sounds reasonable.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago

Theory I heard is that he wanted to be arrested, because he has a plan, maybe using court as a stage for making a public statement.

And that he may even tell the mcDonald worker to rat him out and collect the money.

Probably far from truth, but it would be cool if all that was true.

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Only to have the reward money claim rejected because" without his tip they would have caught him anyway" or any other bullshit reason, just like insurance companies love to do. Oh the irony.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AFAIK it was a customer, not an employee. If it had been the latter, that location would quickly get a serious image problem.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Already does I believe, new one star reviews saying it has a rat problem.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Well, that is one way to put it.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

If the internet ever finds that McDonald’s employee, I predict they will not be happy about it.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not ironic at all. It's by design.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Can't go through life just assuming every single person you meet is going to be a Team Player.

Says something that he made a half a week and across state lines without anyone ratting on him sooner.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think they mean we've been propagandized to undermine, oh I'm sorry, "compete with," one another instead of having any social solidarity.

We'd be a threat to the owners as they hurt us for profit if we all understood the reality that they're our common enemy.

For Profit Media: left right, old young, black white, gay straight, beat eachother bloody, poories!

...just don't look up.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago

He recognized that guy from that picture they populated? I don't think so.

[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Context? Or is it just a random AF tweet?

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The suspect in the insurance ceo assassination was arrested in a McDonald's

[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Commit murder -----> Mac Donalds, players gotta eat

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