this post was submitted on 27 Nov 2024
513 points (97.8% liked)

politics

19223 readers
3157 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Donald Trump’s appointment of John Phelan, a private investment firm chairman with no military experience, as Secretary of the Navy has sparked backlash from some of his supporters on Truth Social.

Many pro-Trump users, including veterans, criticized the pick as rewarding a donor or friend instead of selecting someone with Navy experience.

Some expressed feelings of betrayal, accusing Trump of abandoning their values and making decisions that harm the nation.

The move has raised questions about qualifications and loyalty among his base.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 256 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

zero sympathy for these idiots. you elected a con man. youre getting exactly what you paid for.

[–] KingGordon@lemmy.world 83 points 3 weeks ago

Vote for a clown, don’t be surprised when you get a circus.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

#YouVotedForHim

and similar hashtags need to go viral...

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I might have had some sympathy the first time. They were just coned, not their fault. But as the saying goes. Fool me once, shame on You, fool me twice, shame on me.

[–] M600@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 160 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

These veterans not read project 2025 and realize they are about to lose their benefits?

Zero sympathy for them. I feel bad for the veterans who saw through the bullshit.

[–] droporain@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If only they had a "very particular set of skills" to make a billionaire dollars and not have to deal with these consequences...

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] takeda@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He wants to replace military leaders with lapdogs. His goal is to make military serve him not the Constitution.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 148 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Election is over, he does not care what anyone thinks.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 98 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

This is the most terrifying part. They say that he's "liberated" now, but to me that just means he has nothing to lose. Assuming he lives past January 2029, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by throwing all resources into staying in power. He has no reason to give a fuck about whether anything he does or says is "popular" once he's sworn in. There will be zero consequences for anything until he leaves office, if he leaves office.

The dumb motherfucker proved that somebody with the mentality of a six year old can win the US presidency and then do whatever the fuck he wants, and he'll never face a single, real, goddamn consequence. I am ashamed of my country, and it's horribly depressing how many people died serving our military just to have this flag-hugging dipshit get to be the commander in chief, and he'll sell out to the highest bidders and get several more killed.

We're fucked, and only a small fraction of his worshipers are even beginning to see that. And when the shit hits their fan specifically, most of them will find a way to blame somebody else, probably somebody who is brown and/or has a vagina. Most of these incurious assholes will line up for whatever strong daddy negs them hard enough, and right now that's trump, and there will be a new strong daddy successor to tell them what to do and who to love and how to dress. Strong daddy hurts you and controls you, but at least you don't have to make decisions for yourself when you have strong daddy there to tell you what to think.

Fucking pathetic.

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] fuzzyspudkiss@midwest.social 125 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

If you still voted for Trump after 2016-2020 and Jan 6th then you deserve what you get. Welcome to the find out stage, it just sucks that I have to be here with you.

load more comments (9 replies)
[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 94 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dude said that dead soldiers were losers abd disrespected the Arlington cemetery and they are surprised by this one?

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 78 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Some expressed feelings of betrayal, accusing Trump of abandoning their values and making decisions that harm the nation.

If only someone could have predicted this and warned them, over and over, for years...

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 76 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Deceived? He told you morons exactly what he was going to do.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They were probably focused on things like how the wimmenz and the tranz were hurting the military. Or something. Or at least the thin-skinned cishet xtian rightwing white male incel's feelings, anyway...

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

One disturbing thing about this election was how many people in the groups Trump promised to victimize went and voted for Trump.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago

"But I'm one of the "good" ones". Surely that will protect me.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] indomara@lemmy.world 74 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 72 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Veterans that vote for Republicans... What a bunch of idiots

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump called it I guess.....

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 65 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, they really are that gullible.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Every criticism of trumps cabinet picks are 100% for a fact over stated. I know the average Republican and they do not give a fuck. They won't be satisfied until Trump crowns himself king.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 18 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

King? Do I have you remind you there's Trump fanart as Warhammer's God-Emperor of humankind? Leader of the in canon Fascist army of warhammer 40K?

Not that there's a good army (orks maybe?)

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

What the hell were any Trump-voting servicemembers expecting? That Harris and Walz were making stuff up when they brought up time after time how much Trump hates servicemembers and his country if they get in the way of his needs?

[–] Screamium@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's pretty obvious they never heard a thing any democrat ever said, only what right wing media SAYS that 'the libs' are saying or doing

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That Harris and Walz were making stuff up

Yes. They thought it was all a lie to make Trump look bad.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] donescobar@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I call bullshit on this, if anyone loves to advertise his goods is this cat. You knew what you were buying, fuck you.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

next 4 years are gonna be made much more tolerable from watching all the conservative bleating and handwringing about "HE WASNT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HURT THE NOT-MES!"

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Some expressed feelings of betrayal, accusing Trump of abandoning their values and making decisions that harm the nation.

Those are "their" values, not his. And for a rubble he'll get new values.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Almost everyone he appointed is a shady political insider or a rich guy. He’s draining the swamp water so he can fill the hole with nuclear waste.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

And to the donvict cultists, what they call a "swamp" is actually a set of people that are experts and/or long-term public servants - something they've been trained to bray is a "bad" thing - calling them "elitists" (a perversion of the term) and yelling about "term limits"... instead, they'd apparently rather have a bunch of "outsiders", which means - incompetent grifters and/or enemy agents looking to weaken this country for the benefit of the likes of Putin.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] dovahking@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm convinced he'll be the first president in history to privatise the whole government.

[–] Yodan@lemm.ee 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The whole plan is to break all government agencies and then swoop in with a handful of billionaire buddies to buy up EVERYTHING. Houses, bitcoin, schools, outsourced (previous) government jobs to private industry. Crash the economy and tank the financial hit while everyone else is forced to sell, die, or give up their stuff to survive a recession.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

Look on the bright side, he hasn't even been sworn in yet! We have four more years to be outraged on actual policy, and this will likely pale in comparison!

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago
[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It feels a bit like when a company has been taken over by a VC firm.
And you start finding out how they're going to suck the juice out, while all the management involved in the decision pretend it's all rosy.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

What fans said that? Seriously, all these articles and posts seem like the most pathetic form of copium.

"Oh boy, his supporters must really be feeling bad now right? Right?!" Wrong. His supporters are not having second thoughts. They're not regretting their choices. They aren't feeling betrayed. They are overjoyed, and the constant attempts to reframe that as some Leopards-eating-faces schadenfreude is the stupidest thing I've seen all year, and I watched the run up to the election.

All these fucking posts are either based around like 1-2 tweets from no-name people, obviously fake accounts, or the worst; obviously made-up anecdotal stories from leftists, desperate to feel good about themselves, about how some right-winger in their life suddenly regrets all their choices. "Oh my racist uncle is a farmer and he's really feeling betrayed by Trump now. He's sooooo mad and-" Fuck off. No he's not. You haven't talked to your estranged uncle in years and have no idea what he's feeling if he even exists.

Miserable leftists desperately pretending that right-wingers are regretting their vote and secretly feeling as miserable as them. Grow the fuck up. They aren't regretting things. They won, and they're happier than pigs in shit about it.

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

The thing these articles are doing (which sensationalist articles always do) is taking a few people's opinions and spreading it across the entire blanket "they" of whatever opposite side the article references. It appeals to people because its easier for people to generalize the whole group than to point to a niche section.

This one in particular takes a few people who are interested in the secretary of the Navy and says they're upset at the choice, which they might be, and spins it into "They're all upset at what their leader did."

You can find this rhetoric all over the political spectrum, whether it's copium or relishing. Take it with a grain of salt.

You are not immune to propaganda.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm reading this as a hedge fund is going to buy out the navy and shut it down.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Let me get this straight. Team Trump's thing is to always pick the worst for the job. And not just the worst, we are talking polar opposite black mirror picks. It is designed to make a mockery of the establishments. Like going into court and finding out your judge is literally bozo the clown.

So his team farts out another pick. Someone who is an unqualified shitstain. Color me surprised!

I would not be surprised if this guy couldn't swim and is afraid of the water. He is probably an anti-oceaner who thinks we should drain the ocean to prevent drownings.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Stern@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

its not really deception when hes made the things hes gonna do clear

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 weeks ago

Trump LOVES the poorly educated, too bad it's majority of Americans.

[–] Juigi@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

During the elections I got the idea most Americans hated Trump and wanted him to just disappear, because of posts like this. I really need to widen the sites I get my US news from lemmy and reddit lol

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 3 weeks ago

The time to pretend to have a brain was before the election, Trumpers.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago
[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Need a surprised Pikachu with a MAGA hat meme.

load more comments
view more: next ›