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[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Cool unsourced/debunked fabrication from a literal tabloid, took me all of two minutes to find this, after looking for an actual source, when the OP-linked article didn't have one:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-reported-transgender-military-plan-called-out-charity-1991052

Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. For shame.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Well I hope you're right. After reading your comment I went to check sources for this story on Ground News. The original source sense to be a paywalled article in The Times which I can't read. There are many other sources but they're not what you'd call top tier, and they may all be feeding off each other (see screenshot below). So yes, there seems to be hope that this is false.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 36 points 17 hours ago

How many times in our history are Americans going to get duped into hating people they never even interact with and know nothing about?

None of these people know trans people. These morons have just been conditioned to hate them regardless of not even knowing them. It's pathetic. They've never been hurt, or even inconvenienced by a trans person. Bigot fucks.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 30 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Oh no please don't send highly trained members of our military home where they can protect and train their fellow Americans!

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago

Looks like well-regulated militias are back on the menu

[–] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm under the impression it would devastate the livelihood of those people.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Unfortunately this is probably true, I'm sure they will find a way to take away their veteran's benefits as well. :(

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 44 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ahh, yes. Purging the armed forces. Nothing sinister about that. Just restoring the professional military service.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I mean outside of America we are still going to all let this happen. We are all marching straight into WW3 like the "this is fine" meme.

Should we survive as a species I look forward to 50 years from now where America adopts strong anti-facism laws like Germany has.

Question is, who is the good guy in this new world we are entering?

FWIW as a Canadian we are so fucked. America is going to come knocking for our resources soon and we won't be able to say no.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So. I don't want to be a dick about this and ask a question you can't hive a good answer to publically. I don't necessarily want a public answer here, but.

What are you doing about it? You're pretty much an Austrian in 1937. Maaaaybe a pole. What do you do?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Head between my legs and pray tbh lol

I kinda look at it less like WW2 repeat but the fall of Rome.

Either way we are screwed though. The emperor has no clothes.

[–] ProdigalFrog 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You may want to consider getting involved with a local mutual aid group. The connections you make now will likely pay off in the future.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

Oh I'm not worried about me or mine. I'm confident I can keep 1 step ahead of this madness.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Other ideas? Please? Its not just your life on the line here. We're kind of all in this. Whatcha got?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Deep breaths and take things a day at a time. People have been through far worse even today. I was joking with my GF last night who is South African. This ain't nothing compared to what she has been through as a Zulu woman.

I know it's not the best answer for you, but it is what it is. You either endure or you don't. Me? I choose to endure.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

'Endure'

Okay but when the death squads come that advice isn't going to help much. Reads as kind of a dodge.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Ain't no death squads showing up in Canada anytime soon and if they do in my neighborhood I would personally fuck them up.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Okay, thats more like it; 'personally fuck them up up wherever I see them'!

Now start thinking about how.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 20 points 19 hours ago

Good... We'll need them for the resistance

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Are there actually 15K trans soldiers in the army, or is this just another number that he pulled out of his ass?

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population.[178][179] According to 2014 estimates from the Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity Law and Public Policy, despite the ban on military service, about 21.4% of the total transgender population in the US is estimated to have served in the military. In May 2014, an estimated 15,500 transgender individuals served on active duty or in the Guard or Reserve forces.[22] Wikipedia

So it’s a real number he just thinks military=army like the fake loser he is.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

Apparently I vastly underestimated how many people are in the US military in general.

Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population

That also surprises me.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So, a hypothetical.

Youre 18, you have no prospects, your body feels violently wrong, you have considered suicide as a solution, and you need to get the hell out of the violent christofascist small town youre from, with zero resources and a family that has said they think you should be hunted in the street.

What do you do?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

My first inclination would not be to join an organization that has a long and notorious history of testosterone fuelled bro culture.

[–] invalid_name@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Okay, but consider youre an 18 year old trans man trying to get validation for his gender, or an 18 year old trans woman trying really hard to repress and deny she's that. Is that still a minus?

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

What's even crazier is that, in the modern US military, less than 1% of the population serves in the military.

There are also more NYPD cops than there are active duty Coast Guard personnel.

[–] grrgyle 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Don't folks get gender affirming / plastic surgery for free or something? I think I heard it was covered because it lets military surgeons get practice for when they go work for private sector after their bit

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

The military and the VA offer gender affirming care, and what they offer varies.

For instance (I'm going off memory for active duty, I got out in 2017), if you're active duty, I believe they'll pay for everything so long as you lay out in your Transition Plan everything you want covered and your commanding officer approves it. You need "approval" to ensure that your absence during medical recovery won't hinder mission readiness, so basically, if you're about to be deployed in a month for 6 months, and you're supposed to have gender affirming surgery tomorrow with a multi-month recovery, your surgery will likely be postponed.

The VA, which is for veterans, covers a majority of gender affirming care, but they aren't legally allowed to cover everything. GRS/SRS is the big on, the military will cover that I believe, but the VA cannot and will not.

With Trump coming in, I have a feeling this is all going to go away, and they're going to use a similar approach as the Federal Minimum Drinking Age Act to basically make LGBTQ+ healthcare illegal via withholding federal funding from those states who try to continue after a federal ban. "The states can choose their ~~drinking age~~ gender affirming care, but those who don't follow the federal guidelines will lose access to XYZ federal funding."

[–] steventhedev@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My immediate thought is that Klinger will be happy.

Trump's legacy will be long term damage to national security, rampant racism and discrimination, and widespread corruption.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

His legacy was that after the first go round.

This time it may be destroying democracy entirely.

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