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[–] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 25 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Things that involve your human safety, should always fail open. What a travesty.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

Regular doors with handles don't fail open, there is just an Intuitive and common way to manually open them, which seems like the short coming here.

[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 37 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Well when you get cars designed by people who think safety regulation can be ignored, this is what you get.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 hours ago

The fact that Elon is going to help Trump gut all of our federal agencies makes me sick to my stomach. Trump winning the election is like a terrible nightmare that I can't wake up from.

[–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 33 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

The title made it sound like a full lock-in. But one survived.

Harper grabbed a bar from his truck and handed it to another bystander, who managed to break the back window and pull the young woman to safety.

Tesla has faced criticism in the past for the design of its manual release levers, which are considered poorly designed and unintuitively placed.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 hours ago

Tesla has faced criticism in the past for the design of its manual release levers, which are considered poorly designed and unintuitively placed

Calling it poorly designed is a massive understatement. The manual release is a wire that is hidden behind a hidden panel. A guy made a video showing how to do it and he struggled to do it despite having practiced a few times in advance. The chance of pulling it off while the car was on fire would be very, very low

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Idk what the exact definition of a full lock in is, but if you have to break a window to get someone out I'd think it still qualifies since the locks were all engaged.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 hours ago

Tesla has faced criticism in the past for the design of its manual release levers, which are considered poorly designed and unintuitively placed.

I like how the article delivered that fact in a way that focuses on their inadequacy while highlighting their existence. It's like "we know they had a backup option, so shut up. They still weren't good enough to be available for the emergency when they're hidden behind shit.

If I put a half-wall up in my house in front of a visible window that can be used as emergency egress, I'm in shit. This hidden latch is no better.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Elmo is too cheap to give his customers real door handles when it can be done in software.

[–] jdeath@lemm.ee 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

it aint just tesla. i was at a wedding this week and one of my pals rented an electric Ford. no regular door handles, no climate or radio control buttons. we ended up roasting it the whole time. the future is now! he paid $40 to get 200 miles of charge and it only took 90 minutes. all the buttons were screens and the levers were buttons or knobs! seriously stupid

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The touch pad control shit just sends me “yah, let’s get rid of these cheap, easily manufactured and implemented dials and knobs that can be easily operated without looking and replace them with an expensive touch screen that you need to look away from the road to use, that’s truly the way of the future; Unnecessarily expensive, more difficult to use, and reliant on software that will probably get bricked in 3 years when the executives lay off the team maintaining it so they can give them selves a pay raise.”

[–] jdeath@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

also, the disrespect for software that powers the fucking touchscreen is insane (as a non-biased software developer)

[–] jdeath@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

the part that worries me is that planes with touchscreens are coming

[–] tal@lemmy.today 27 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Setting aside anything specific to the mechanism in that vehicle, I suppose that keeping one of those window-breaker tools in the dash might have been a good idea, for a car of any sort.

That being said, I don't keep one in my car.

[–] nous@programming.dev 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That being said, I don't keep one in my car.

Now is the time to change that.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And make sure it comes with a seat belt cutter.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I have a very, very tiny folding knife (less than an inch blade) on my keychain, and unless I'm flying somewhere, I always have that, and I suppose that that could cut a seatbelt, though I doubt that it'd be likely for the seatbelt to jam. No glass punch, though.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 6 hours ago

It's best to use specialized tools for this. A knife this small is basically useless.

[–] Clasm@ttrpg.network 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I've heard that done Tesla models have laminate glass on the doors, like they make the windshield, making most glass breakers ineffective.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

investigates

Hmm. Apparently, yeah, some Tesla vehicles do and some do not.

reads further

It sounds like autos in general are shifting away from tempered glass side windows to laminated glass, so those window breakers may not be effective on a number of newer cars. Hmm. Well, that's interesting.

https://info.glass.com/laminated-vs-tempered-car-side-windows/

You may have seen it in the news recently—instances of someone getting stuck in their vehicle after an accident because the car was equipped with laminated side windows. Laminated windows are nearly impossible to break with traditional glass-break tools. These small devices are carried in many driver’s gloveboxes because they easily break car windows so that occupants can escape in emergency situations. Unfortunately, these traditional glass-break tools don’t work with laminated side windows. Even first responder professionals have difficulty breaking through laminated glass windows with specialized tools. It can take minutes to saw through and remove laminated glass. In comparison, tempered glass breaks away in mere seconds.