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Summary

President Joe Biden’s economic achievements—lowering inflation, reducing gas prices, creating jobs, and boosting manufacturing—are largely unrecognized by the public, despite his successes.

His tenure saw landmark legislation like the Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS Act, and major infrastructure investments.

However, Biden's approval ratings remain low, attributed to inflation backlash, weak communication, and a media landscape prone to misinformation.

Democrats face a “propaganda problem” rather than a policy failure, with many voters likely to credit incoming President Trump for Biden’s accomplishments due to partisan messaging and social media dynamics.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

No shit! Say it with me:

Conservatives control the media. Conservatives control the narrative. Reality does not reflect what people see.

When overnight the Joe Rogan interview with Trump had over 40 million views, the issue becomes clear.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

overnight

Not overnight, 3 days

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Fair. Looks like it was 26 million on Youtube alone in the first 24 hours, not counting Apple, Spotify, and others.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Opinion: I Lost Because I Didn't Do Anything Wrong and Have no Lessons to Learn

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

biden getting flak over inflation is fucking hilarious.

The fed is literally irrelevant to the president, the president does not control inflation. Sure maybe his spending increased inflation. But the entire global economy was at a practical stand still. If you think getting a seized ICE working again is hard, try it with a global economy.

You can bitch all you want about inflation, but at the end of the day, nobody really knows what the right solution here was. We could've gone through another great depression event if not for global stimulus. And a few years of bad inflation and high costs will beat literally starving.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Consider this.

A few weeks before the election Donald Trump and Elon Musk had a little circle jerk podcast interview with each other. They spent time talking about how anti-union they are and how much they hate worker’s rights. Then working class Americans went out in droves and voted for those two rich assholes who openly talked about wishing workers had less rights.

We made a guy who was the first president in U.S. history to stand on a picket line with striking workers step down because he was old. Then we hired another equally old rich guy who openly talks about wishing workers had less rights.

Americans. Are. Stupid.

Our situation isn’t going to get better any time soon. For those of us who aren't boomers, we're basically locked into a lifetime of economic hardship.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is how you win an election.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm under no obligation to be kind to stupid people that degrade our quality of life with their ignorant decisions.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Don't be. Being an asshole wins elections. They are deplorable and they are making you be this way. It's their fault. If they were just to follow the rules you wouldn't be an awful person. You're a hero.

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[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

His adminstration may have not created them. But the neoliberal Democrats that he represents did going all the way back to Clinton.

He also only deployed half measures or dragged his feet all the way until the last minute.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 32 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's not even a propaganda problem, per se, because most people aren't obsessively following the news and economic reports.

It's how they feel about money.

That was the biggest single issue.

People looked at grocery store prices and said, this is nuts, I was paying half this just four years ago.

It doesn't matter to them that global inflation skyrocketed along with inflation in the US, or that we're doing better than the rest of the world right now. They want to see prices go down, even though that would be deflation, which is incredibly bad for an economy.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It’s not even a propaganda problem, per se, because most people aren’t obsessively following the news and economic reports.

i HIGHLY disagree with you.

Even if you're a relatively disconnected right winger, who listens to fox news or the daily wire a couple of times of week, the propaganda is so fucking blatant it will still completely indoctrinate you after a few years.

like to be clear, any right winger that obsessively follows the news is literally ben shapiro or alex jones. There is no "moderate" here unfortunately.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Even if you’re a relatively disconnected right winger

I'm not talking about relatively disconnected right wingers; I'm talking about people that are largely centrist, and not paying attention to Fox, NBC, CNN, or any newspapers, and gets all of their 'news' from social media. I guess you'd call them the hoi poloi; they're low-information voters (or no information voters), and mostly apathetic as long as they feel like they're getting by. Policy won't matter to them very much; they're voting on feels.

any right winger that obsessively follows the news is literally ben shapiro or alex jones.

That depends. There are a number of people that are extremely fiscally conservative that have zero interest in culture wars issues. Most of them have defected from the Republican party entirely though, because they see that the current iteration of the Republican party is deeply harmful to the kind of conservatism that they stand for. But that kind of conservative hasn't really been popular since about the time that Newt Gingritch was trying to stir up the country against a president that didn't keep his dick in his pants.

[–] VoterFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Social media is where most of the blatantly false propaganda lives. Getting all of your news from it makes you more susceptible to propaganda, not less. These are people who have nothing to form an opinion with except for what the loudest people around them are complaining about most. And propagandists are the loudest ones, complaining about made up bullshit.

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[–] Juigi@lemm.ee 47 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Average american seems to be easily manipulated, especially if its about politics. No fact checking, just going with "gut" feeling.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Always has been.

Problem is their "gut" feelings are now from conservative radio/podcasts and facebook feeds, instead of a mix of papers and friends like before.

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