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I'm betting trump puts his fingers in his ears, tells netanyahu to get it over as fast as possible, then surveys his victory with a look of triumph on his face.
That or bibi throws everything at Gaza these next 3 months so the next administration can blame it on Biden.
Love this comments section in denial because they refused to read past the title in both the post and article that clearly states most Palestinians don't expect a difference.
The Palestinians in the biggest city on the West Bank seem to have already come to a provisional consensus: that the US election result has no real impact here because things could not possibly be worse.
The recently fired Israeli defense minister was allegedly claiming all the military objectives in Gaza were achieved, and that there's no need for ignoring a hostage deal.
So I'm really failing to see how this isn't already rock bottom.
13 straight months of giving Israel a free pass, Trump literally can't improve the maxed out arm sales even if he tried.
And I can bet you my life saving Biden will do jack shit to stop Israel in his remaining 3 months even though he has nothing to lose.
Man we're gonna have to open like dozens of new zoos for all the leopards absolutely feasting on people's faces. When Trump warp speeds the deletion of Gaza, you get what you fucking deserve.
Wait… you’re not suggesting that voting for the lesser of two evils would’ve somehow helped the Palestinians somehow (or at least lessened the negative impacts)? Everyone knows that you either get everything you want or you just let the worst possible result happen, there is no middle ground.
People standing up for Palestine didn’t vote for fucking Trump. They mostly begrudgingly voted for Harris.
I’m not going to cast judgement on actual Palestinians who had their entire bloodlines erased by the Biden / Harris administration not being able to stomach voting for Harris.
Regardless, they weren’t a big enough voting block to sway the election.
The blame lies more with the DNC, Republicans, Trump. Hell 55% of Latino men voted for Trump.
Why couldn’t Biden / Harris do the bare minimum to stop sending countless bombs and weapons to Israel for an entire year of non-stop genocide? Are they completely guilt free in your mind?
Even if some Arab Americans couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Harris, they were not actively voting for Trump.
Palestinians have never done anything wrong except try to exist on their native land while undergoing decades of genocide while the world remained largely silent.
“You get what you fucking deserve.”
Scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds. Don’t pretend you were ever on the left or ever stood against the genocide if that’s your attitude. You’re just trying to make it easy on yourself for not actually standing for anything and you’re just as guilty as those genocidal maniacs.
And throws anyone caught in public with a palestinian flag in jail...they really showed it to genocide Joe.
But at least Democrats were taught a lesson right libs? Right??
.... Right?
We’ll trade votes with non-swing state constituents!
Fucking morons
The DNC and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory: Name a more iconic duo.
The DNC didn't make anyone see a man who promised to be a dictator, who quoted Hitler, who said immigrants were poisoning the blood of our country, who promised 1500% tariffs, who chose Vance as a running mate and who shows very clear signs of significant cognitive decline and say, "I'm not going to stop that guy from getting into office."
There is not a single reason that an American voter can give me that would justify not voting for Harris and allowing this to happen.
I don't care how much you didn't like Harris. Trump is worse in every possible way.
But enjoy this gloating time now. You won't be gloating in four years when there's going to be a Putin-style election.
While everything you said is true the DNC is also equally to blame. For better or worse FPTP means we only have two parties, which means there's an onus on them to appeal to as many voters as they can (to do anything less is to guarantee their loss). The DNC for decades now has followed a policy of appealing not to the general public, but to a wealthy subset in order to maximize their own ~~bribes~~ campaign contributions. That has seen a steady rightward shift of their economic (and to a lesser extent social) policies. This rightward shift naturally alienates a large block of those that would otherwise support them. After all if you're a supporter of right wing policies you would already be a Republican, thus if you aren't it's because you're looking for left wing policies. Something the Democrats increasingly do not have.
There are three possible outcomes for each potential voter. You can vote Republican. You can vote Democrat. Or you can not vote (or vote 3rd party, the outcome is identical either way). Because voting isn't mandatory, the default state is not voting. Republicans have spent the last couple decades erecting roadblocks to voting, passing ID laws, closing polling places to increase lines, encouraging their followers to harass voters, purging voter rolls at the last minute, etc.
All that means that it takes actual effort to go out and vote. For an increasingly exhausted public, that is struggling just to survive day to day, that might have to take a precious day off from work to stand in an uncomfortable line for hours at a time while being menaced by unhinged MAGA, they need a strong encouragement to put up with all that.
From a purely logical standpoint the threat posed by Trump and MAGA should be sufficient motivation. But people are not always or even often logical. Republicans have spent decades fine tuning their propaganda. They've weaponized AM radio, and talking head "news" shows like Hannity, to convince their voters that Democrats are perpetually moments away from rounding them all up and having them executed. That's the reason Republicans always show up to vote, no matter how onerous the process becomes.
Democrats in contrast have been hesitant to call a spade a spade. They should have been blaring the threat posed by Trump from day one of his campaign in the most explicit language possible. Every opportunity should have been taken to replay highlights of every unhinged statement Trump made to highlight exactly how dangerous he was. Instead they use euphemisms, saying things like "extremists" rather than terrorists, or "Insurrection" instead of attempted coup.
Added to all of that is dissatisfaction with Democrats policies right when they needed to be doing everything they could to convince people that if they just got off their asses and voted things would significantly improve for them.
So yes, this is very much a failure of Democrats. The party failed not just themselves but the American public. Unfortunately now everyone pays the price for that, not just the apathetic voters that sat out, but even those of us that did the sane logical thing and voted for the lesser evil.
All very true.
I do think it's worth mentioning that the "lesser evil" politics that she ran on has never worked for anyone, not even once? She aligned herself with several popular conservatives positions (deportation, stronger border policy, continued financial and armaments support to Israel). But conservatives had no reason to vote for her over Trump. This swath of voters who wanted what she offered does not exist. The ones who want those things want other things too, things that Trump offers them.
So her best position was being the lesser of two evils, being better than Trump but still not a progressive candidate. That political angle failed the DNC in 2016, and it failed them again. This is entirely the failure of the DNC to be a progressive party. They chose neoliberal conservatism to the bitter end and threw us all under the bus with it.
The number of leftists and muslisms who didn't vote for Harris on principal is far lower than any amount that would have saved her. She resoundingly lost this election in every possible way. Blaming people who didn't vote for her on principal is ridiculously misunderstanding what happened here. The majority of America is okay with bigotry. The majority is fine with violence against women and minorities. Either that or they have constructed conspiracies that Trump hasn't actually said or done those things. Either way, they are unbothered by the things he has said and done.
The is the correct energy, and exactly the correct thing to say. Thanks for saying it. Now I can type this shorter message instead!
You're welcome. The numbness is wearing off and the anger is setting in.
Ah the DNC, the classic boogieman of the geniuses who decide not to vote when a criminal who loves Hitler is running for office after already having tried overturning democracy once. Yes it's the DNC's fault you couldn't be bothered to lift a fucking pen against fascism.
No no, I was told repeatedly that Trump would be no worse than Harris. Clearly the Palestinians on the ground are wrong somehow.
I too trust Russian Bots over real people /s
Palestinians in the West Bank are largely pessimistic about Donald Trump’s re-election, viewing it as unlikely to significantly worsen their already dire situation
Surely they meant "likely"?
though some fear it could embolden Israeli actions.
That last part of the sentence gives context that tells me they didn't make a typo.
Seems contradictory, no?
No, what they're saying is that their situation can't get much worse than it already is
And that's wrong.
No? It's saying "most people think this, but a few others think this other thing."