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Go !zerowaste@slrpnk.net ! Stop buying plastic bottle when you want water.
Thanks for linking that community.
On top of you advice: IMO if the tap water is safe for drinking, use that and don't buy bottled water at all. No need to add to the plastic problem. Also: it's usually cheaper.
Pay to read the rest, and no sources linked as far as I can find. They are using a proxy to figure out the weight without bothering to eliminate a bunch of variables either.
Nano and micro plastics are a thing, and it's bad. Just like this article
I have one installed, but if I'm sharing, I copy the URL and go to https://achive.today and see if they have it. If they don't, I ask them to archive it then share it.
Here is a link if you (or anyone else) is interested: https://archive.is/BW4Tp
Yoink, I will be using that
achive?
The planet will be here for a long, long, long time after we’re gone and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself ’cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the Earth plus Plastic. The Earth doesn’t share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the Earth; the Earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the Earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place: it wanted plastic for itself, didn’t know how to make it, needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old philosophical question: “Why are we here?” Plastic, assholes!
-- George Carlin
How old is that? I've been looking for one for years. I think that's it, but I don't remember the last panel like that
Gosh, I wanna say I saw it at least as far back as 2010, possibly older.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Earth, is in fact, Earth/Plastic, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Earth plus Plastic. Earth is not a planet unto itself, but rather another component of a fully self-correcting paradigm made useful by Plastic and it's human manufacturers, compromising a full ecosystem defined by Mother Nature.
I really miss that guy
One of my biggest regrets in life was passing on an opportunity to see him perform. A friend had some tickets and invited me, but I wasn't able to get the day off work. "I'll catch him when he tours again next year", I thought. He died later that year.
I saw him in Marquette, Michigan in the early 90s. The only thing I remember about the performance was "don't call Natives 'Native Americans'. America sucks. Just call them Indians."
Marquette's pretty much the backwater of Michigan, he must have been working on new material.
I saw him, but he clearly had a cold so he was really off his game. It was still funny, but I wish I could have seen him when he wasn't feeling like crap.
So many of us do, but if he was alive in 2016, Trump winning would have killed him.
Til that OP has no concept of what a particle is or how small it is or how many of them there are in any given scenario because our brains did not evolve to process that kind of scale accurately.
Just posted the article. Why not be constructive and post something more informative?
Because pop science articles often throw out bullshit like "blowing your nose can cause you to expel over 100 germs" because they know that 100 sounds like a big number and will get clicks.
People not questioning the actual context and meaning behind those numbers and how they connect back to something we actually care about leads to a lot of bullshit science reporting.
That seems more like your problem than OP's.
Lmao, bruh here thinks his brain evolved to process scales of millions and comprehend a nanometer.
Are you a special unique bro different from everyone else?
It's 14,000 to 75,000, not millions.
Microplastics are in the range of one micrometer to five millimeters, not nanometers.
That changes literally nothing of what I said. Your brain did not evolve to process those scales accurately. If you think you can, that just means you're lacking in self reflection.
Being factually incorrect about literally everything you said changes nothing? Okay.
More importantly, humans are capable of abstract thought. Your whole argument is specious. If you find yourself lacking the context to understand these numbers, you can easily seek context. A good starting place would be the actual paper, which is linked in OP's article. For the lazy: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-61146-4
Being factually incorrect about literally everything you said changes nothing? Okay.
Yeah bruh, it's this little thing called being pedantic.
If I say wealth inequality is crazy, no one should have 250 billion dollars, and you say 'well actually Jeff Bezos only has 210 billion dollars', then I will be factually incorrect and my point will still be completely valid.
Did you really just compare the difference between 210 billion and 250 billion to the difference between 14,000 to 75,000 vs millions and one micrometer to five millimeters vs nanometers?
Yes, it's this little thing called context, thresholds, and relative magnitude.
If your brain is only evolved to process numbers up to a hundred or two, then everything 10000+ is similarly processed through abstractions rather than your brain being able to directly comprehend and compare them.
If instead of asking a guffawing question, you actually tried to point out why my reasoning was flawed, you may have realized those basic aspects of how language and reasoning work on your own.
Relative magnitude, really? You’re undermining your own point by not using a representative example and then calling your example a relative magnitude to the others.
210 billion to 250 billion = ~19% increase
75,000 to a million = ~12,000% increase
Nanometer to micrometer = ~99,000% increase
Nanometer to 5 millimeters = ~499,999,900% increase
Notice how all of those numbers are substantially larger or smaller, by many orders of magnitude, than a couple of hundred.
Are you intentionally trying to avoid understanding what I'm writing?
210 billion is not substantially smaller than 250 billion. Are you intentionally trying to miss the point?
oh well
Damn, how have I not heard of this before? I always thought it got dumped into landfills and eventually degraded to tiny particles. If it's released so directly, it feels a lot more viable to reduce exposure by avoiding plastics...
That's the thing, when people hear the term micro they still (for some reason) assume its something they can see with their naked eyes. Kind of like those plastic pellets put into handsoaps a while back that are now band.
In reality microplastics are everywhere there is plastic, and they are released all the time at a microscopic level. Meaning you actually need a microscope to see them. Its like a fine dust.
Now think of all the plastic items you use and come in contact with.
Toothbrushes for example, each time you brush your teeth the brisels break down at a microscopic level and are released. The plastic utensils you use either in the kitchen on your pans, or the single use ones for food, they all slowly release plastics. That plastic cutting board, or boiling water in a plastic kettle, yup they all also release plastic.
Pretty much everything breaks down at a microscopic level, that is how knives become dull, or how items show wear and tear over time.
It's insane to me that people actually have plastic kettles.
for some reason
it's probably because the limit for the category of microplastics is "now widely defined as pieces ≤5 mm in size".
Food in plastic containers seems really bad for you, and microwaving food in plastic seems worse.
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