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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (4 children)

and where exactly are Deep Space 1-8?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

DS1-7 were destroyed while under construction. DS8 disappeared shortly after coming online.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Other kings said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in these islands.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We don't talk about Deep Space 1-8.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I'll have you know that Mariner saw the Zebulon Sisters do the Chu Chu Dance on Deep Space 3.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also, Space Station Regula 1 implies there were other Regulas. What were they up to?

It was the first of a proposed 15, but budget cuts led to them all being canceled except the first.

In German it is called "Das nächste Jahrhundert" meaning "The next century", which avoids that issue.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The interim generations were, sadly, found not to be Trek worthy.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"You are Star Trek, but we do not grant you the rank of Generation."

[–] Stiffneckedppl@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

How can you be Star Trek and not be a Generation?!

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

After Khan and his augments, I can see how the rest of humanity deemed hum drum.

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Lifespans are certainly longer considering McCoy is still up and walking around near the start of TNG. 😒 Keiko being Keiko once again...

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Keiko being Keiko once again...

A sharp edged but reasonable person? A flat out "good takes" machine that doesn't know the main characters are Mary sues immune from real consequences?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

It's all the same generation as far as Tuvok is concerned.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The actual answer is that thr next generation being referred to is the generation watching the show. Their parents grew up watching the original, and now they are watching Star Trek for their generation.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I'm pretty sure it was just the next generation/iteration of the show. They played around with Kirk and Spock at the academy and Captain Sulu and probably some other ideas. I think Greenfield like they did was the correct path.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 10 points 5 days ago

The Next Generation [to Get Their Own TV Show]

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

O’Brian’s generation is like 300 years.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Star Trek Gen-Z

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

A "generation" is colloquially ~14-20 years, and "several" means 7+. Keiko's high as balls again. 🤦🏽‍♂️

edit: if "several" generations "by any reckoning" were able to fit into ~85 years' time, it would require 10yr olds becoming parents in each generation, consecutively. What the actual, Keiko. Words matter. Ew.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Personally I think "several" could be as few as like, 3

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

3 is a few, several has got to be 4+

[–] dharmacurious 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I agree with the poster below, in that they're ambiguous terms used interchangably, descriptive linguistics and whatnot. But in my brain, they're hard coded as couple=2, few=3, several=4+, a bunch= 10 or more, but not 12. Can me 10, 11, 13+, but can't specifically be 12. That's a dozen.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I agree with these, except I would use a bunch to mean as low as say, 5 or 6. Like a bunch of bananas at a grocer.

[–] dharmacurious 1 points 5 days ago

I could get behind this. The low end of a bunch isn't as clearly defined in my head as the others. So long as it isn't precisely 12, it's okay. Lol. Also, 6 is often "half dozen" but not always.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] criitz@reddthat.com 3 points 5 days ago

Haha, sorry! I know people like to give very specific meanings to words like a few, several, or some, but colloquially to me they are intentionally ambiguous and all basically mean "a small amount, more than 2"

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

TBF, even three "generations" in that span assumes parenthood by 28 (2021: 30, FYI), and 4+ generations by 7 years apiece — putting it well beyond reality "by any reckoning".

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Heroes of might and magic III taught me when I was a kid that Few means 1-4 and several means 5-9 and I refuse to receive any other explanations

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

fair, HoMM3 > xkcd ngl

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Now I wonder how Lower Decks call the TNG people.

Fookin' legends

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe I missed something, but how can it be 85 years apart since Scotty was on TNG.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

In that episode, they find Scotty trapped in a transporter buffer.

But they also had a super old Dr. McCoy in one of the first episodes, so maybe lifespans are longer too.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He was like 130 in that episode. He was also the last remaining crewman of the original Enterprise, as far as we know.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

But he didn't feel a day over 100.

[–] pmc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago

It would make sense that future medical enhancements would prolong lifespans significantly, especially given that (depending on the episode) they've cured things like the common cold and headaches.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Generations and the boundaries for how they are defined is a social construct, regular intervals by years? Distinct by some major event or phenomenon? Perhaps it had been one generation by TNG norms

[–] Sertou@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

There were 3 generations of starships named Enterprise between TOS and TNG. Surely that's the most relevant measure of a generation for Star Trek.