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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

and where exactly are Deep Space 1-8?

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

DS1-7 were destroyed while under construction. DS8 disappeared shortly after coming online.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Other kings said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in these islands.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We don't talk about Deep Space 1-8.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I'll have you know that Mariner saw the Zebulon Sisters do the Chu Chu Dance on Deep Space 3.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also, Space Station Regula 1 implies there were other Regulas. What were they up to?

It was the first of a proposed 15, but budget cuts led to them all being canceled except the first.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The interim generations were, sadly, found not to be Trek worthy.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"You are Star Trek, but we do not grant you the rank of Generation."

[–] Stiffneckedppl@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

How can you be Star Trek and not be a Generation?!

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

After Khan and his augments, I can see how the rest of humanity deemed hum drum.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

It's all the same generation as far as Tuvok is concerned.

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lifespans are certainly longer considering McCoy is still up and walking around near the start of TNG. 😒 Keiko being Keiko once again...

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Keiko being Keiko once again...

A sharp edged but reasonable person? A flat out "good takes" machine that doesn't know the main characters are Mary sues immune from real consequences?

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The actual answer is that thr next generation being referred to is the generation watching the show. Their parents grew up watching the original, and now they are watching Star Trek for their generation.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure it was just the next generation/iteration of the show. They played around with Kirk and Spock at the academy and Captain Sulu and probably some other ideas. I think Greenfield like they did was the correct path.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

The Next Generation [to Get Their Own TV Show]

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

A "generation" is colloquially ~14-20 years, and "several" means 7+. Keiko's high as balls again. 🤦🏽‍♂️

edit: if "several" generations "by any reckoning" were able to fit into ~85 years' time, it would require 10yr olds becoming parents in each generation, consecutively. What the actual, Keiko. Words matter. Ew.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Personally I think "several" could be as few as like, 3

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

3 is a few, several has got to be 4+

[–] dharmacurious 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with the poster below, in that they're ambiguous terms used interchangably, descriptive linguistics and whatnot. But in my brain, they're hard coded as couple=2, few=3, several=4+, a bunch= 10 or more, but not 12. Can me 10, 11, 13+, but can't specifically be 12. That's a dozen.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I agree with these, except I would use a bunch to mean as low as say, 5 or 6. Like a bunch of bananas at a grocer.

[–] dharmacurious 1 points 3 weeks ago

I could get behind this. The low end of a bunch isn't as clearly defined in my head as the others. So long as it isn't precisely 12, it's okay. Lol. Also, 6 is often "half dozen" but not always.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] criitz@reddthat.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Haha, sorry! I know people like to give very specific meanings to words like a few, several, or some, but colloquially to me they are intentionally ambiguous and all basically mean "a small amount, more than 2"

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

TBF, even three "generations" in that span assumes parenthood by 28 (2021: 30, FYI), and 4+ generations by 7 years apiece — putting it well beyond reality "by any reckoning".

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Heroes of might and magic III taught me when I was a kid that Few means 1-4 and several means 5-9 and I refuse to receive any other explanations

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

fair, HoMM3 > xkcd ngl

[–] a_random_fox@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

In German it is called "Das nächste Jahrhundert" meaning "The next century", which avoids that issue.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Now I wonder how Lower Decks call the TNG people.

Fookin' legends

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe I missed something, but how can it be 85 years apart since Scotty was on TNG.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In that episode, they find Scotty trapped in a transporter buffer.

But they also had a super old Dr. McCoy in one of the first episodes, so maybe lifespans are longer too.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He was like 130 in that episode. He was also the last remaining crewman of the original Enterprise, as far as we know.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

But he didn't feel a day over 100.

[–] pmc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

It would make sense that future medical enhancements would prolong lifespans significantly, especially given that (depending on the episode) they've cured things like the common cold and headaches.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Generations and the boundaries for how they are defined is a social construct, regular intervals by years? Distinct by some major event or phenomenon? Perhaps it had been one generation by TNG norms

[–] Sertou@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

There were 3 generations of starships named Enterprise between TOS and TNG. Surely that's the most relevant measure of a generation for Star Trek.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Star Trek Gen-Z

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

O’Brian’s generation is like 300 years.