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More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.

“We know that many in our communities are resistant to vote for Kamala Harris because of the Biden administration’s complicity in the genocide,” the letter, published Thursday night, reads.

“Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon. We respect those who feel they simply can’t vote for a member of the administration that sent the bombs that may have killed their loved ones,” the letter continued. “As we consider the full situation carefully, however, we conclude that voting for Kamala Harris is the best option for the Palestinian cause and all of our communities.”

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[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 224 points 1 week ago (148 children)

It is important to note that foreign nations like Iran, Russia and China are using this topic to convince voters to allow facism to win the election in the US. This doesn’t mean that Israel shouldn’t be held accountable for their actions. But history shows how foreign actors use these topics to manipulate us.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think it is important to note that a surprisingly large number of voters say they like fascism without any need to rationalise that as foreign meddling. Being told that you are good because you are ingroup and they are bad because they are outgroup is an enduringly popular message with a large minority of people.

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[–] derf82@lemmy.world 155 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Do Muslim’s really think voting for Muslim ban guy who would give Israel even more weapons a better choice?

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No but Russian troll farm employees sure want us to believe it.

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 34 points 1 week ago

Many just want to stay home, but in contested districts their absence may mean something.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

A poll released Monday conducted by Arab News/YouGov found that Trump led Harris 45 percent to 43 percent among Arab Americans. Those voters said that they viewed Trump as more supportive of Israel’s current government, but that he was more likely to end the conflict.

In 2020, FL Hispanics were bombarded with ads saying that Biden would give away Florida to Castro as part of his love for communism or deport them all to Cuba. Trump won FL by a large margin, mostly because Miami area was not as blue as in the past. 60% of FL voters still voted for $15 minimum wage.

In 2020, also, heavily hispanic southern counties of TX went pro Trump on ads that there would be a lot of work in the counties from building walls.

AIPAC lobby has spent record amounts on primaries for democrats this year where the incumbent supported a ceasefire. The only ones AIPAC won were ones where they did not mention Israel at all. Other Republican PACs are blanketing Arab zip codes with how pro Israel Harris is, and Jewish zip codes with how she is a muslim plant.

While Trump very proudly has RFK boast of his desire to end the most stupid war the US has ever conducted, Trump is favoured by Netanyahu, including reported daily strategy calls on how to sabotage Biden's fake constraints policies. He is more likely to believe any benefits Netanyahu tells him of a full war on Iran/Lebanon/Syria over any prudence.

Trump's main claim for 2020 election "rigging" is that a Hunter Biden laptop existed, without anything implicating President on it. But republican rigging of misinformation, and vote suppression, just wasn't enough even though that nothing story was still all over the news.

There are serious problems with US electoral system, and it is orders of magnitude worse every cycle.

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 133 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That is fucking brutal.

I agree but man what a horrible choice.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

yeah its a truly dystopian choice but voting for somebody doesn't mean you approve of everything they have done or will do.

It just means for those with affected friends and families they have done the cruel calculus and have decided which path will be lesser of two evils.

I fully expect trump to try to deport palestinian refugees and its crazy this is where we are at.

I mean, he's promised to deport Americans who protest on behalf of the Palestinians. He sure wouldn't hesitate to deport Palestinian refugees.

[–] Souroak@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is no choice between someone who disappoints me in their responses on this issue, and someone who openly wonders if sending a nuclear warhead into a hurricane a couple hundred miles offshore will lead to a positive result. And of course that was with where his mental state was at over 4 years ago.

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Every election in the US is that way. It's a choice of the lesser evil and you can only vote against the greater evil not vote for good.

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, this milkshake brings all the .ml to the yard.l

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And they're like, don't vote so hard.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 85 points 1 week ago (12 children)
[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (32 children)

Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon.

Watch the "a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide" crowd claim these Palestinian and Lebanese Americans support genocide in Palestine and Lebanon.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Good, I hope it does some good. Any other vote is a vote for Trump, intended or not, and Trump won't just ignore the genocide. His track record makes it abundantly clear that he'll absolutely make it worse.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (43 children)

Man, I hope this changes some minds, but it might be too little too late. She's had a lot of opportunities to turn things around with the Arab community, and she's flat out ignored all of them. I'm really worried this will be her version of Hillary's, "I don't need to campaign in the Rust Belt," decision.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Not that I'm not glad, but this kind of endorsement needs time to permeate, and could've shut up a large chunk of disingenuous contrarians a MONTH ago.

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[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (15 children)

How is her getting this endorsement over Trump stunning? It's a no-fucking-shit development

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because somehow there are Muslims and Arab-Americans who have convinced themselves that voting for the guy who instituted the "Muslim Ban" and called their countries "shitholes" is better than voting for Harris.

There is a reason why Netanyahu and his war cabinet haven't listened to people (including in Biden's administration) pushing a cease fire. It's because Netanyahu knows that if Trump wins, he will have permission to "finish what he started" in Gaza. Then Trump and Kushner will build golf courses there with Saudi money.

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[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (19 children)

I wish these .ml clowns would hold their impotent revolution stirring for ONE critical election. Once trump is gone and MAGA gets told they are unacceptable by a massive blue tsunami, then trump is completely into dementia before he gets another chance to lose, then you can go be a hero and fight against our interests at home in favor of....still doing genocide....or whatever ignorant magical change you think is going to happen instead.

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