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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 161 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Headline: Russian Oligarch Found Dead in Moscow after Falling Out of Window

"Do you know how little that narrows it down?"

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago

“Marked as suspected duplicate, needs more details.”

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 97 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You gotta be kidding me. But hey, stick with the classics. If it ain't broke...

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 76 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The classics are the point. These aren't meant to be secretive killings, the signature is the message.

They would use a different method if they wanted to obscure responsibility, dispose of the body, or do any number of things differently. Because they didn't, means it was a public signing statement.

Whether it was intended for one recipient, or many, who's to say. Either way, you can be sure the intended party, or parties, received it.

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm gonna start pushing people out of windows and then blame the Russian government

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you often find yourself in tall buildings and alone with oligarchs or siloviki?

If so, sure why not.

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[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

These aren't meant to be secretive killings, the signature is the message

Sure, but would it kill them to spice things up every once in a while?

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's unfortunate that this method was initially used because it was an intentionally ambiguous method of assassination, whereas now it's a signature assassination, with only a sprinkling of ambiguity for their local media.

Just think, if they had started with tragic hot air balloon accident, death by misadventure with a jet ski, or pet bear mauling?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 3 weeks ago

This is what happens when everyone follows the same Hitman walkthrough.

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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago

Those damn flimsy Russian windows.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 54 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Dwayne_Elizondo_Mountain_Dew_Camacho@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That was a grim read. My favorite part:

Reportedly died by suicide after shooting himself in the chest five times.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They shoot themselves 5 times in the chest while they free fall out the window during their suicide attempt and begin to fear it won't kill them.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago

Might as well kill some time during the flight

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago

Oligarch: Putin what is going on with the war? Why are we losing?

Putin: Oh wow look, an Eagle, just out there, wow majestic plumage, you should come and see...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Windows are just so unsafe in Russia, aren't they? I'm never getting near one if I ever go to Moscow.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

~~Windows are just so unsafe in Russia, aren't they?~~ I'm never ~~getting near one if I ever~~ go[ing] to Moscow.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I'd love to go to Moscow. From all I've seen, it's a beautiful city. I'd also love to go to St. Petersburg and see the Hermitage.

But not while Putin is in power. Maybe one day when elections are fair and queer people aren't oppressed, but I won't be holding my breath for that happening in my lifetime sadly.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If I'd outlive the gramps sending us to kill and die, it'd be a pleasure for me to show you and other lemmings around. Russia has many sight to see and adore, to fall in love even, mostly in St. Petes as I'm biased against Moscow. If at any point I'd not be persecuted for printing that comment, I'd gladly do it on the house.

Peterhoff is one of the most popular tourist destinations there if you want to google some photos. A mansion where every room is designed in it's own royal-tier style to cringe at. And that complex is surrounded with a huge walking park with old trees, marble statues and beatiful fontains, some of them are made to shoot at random from the ground to confuse visitors, all of that sitting right at the shore.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My dad was invited to a conference in St. Petersburg when it was still Leningrad after Glasnost. He was well-traveled, but talked about how the two most beautiful cities he ever saw in his life were Leningrad and Sarajevo. He openly wept when the latter was destroyed during the war in the Balkans.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

I hope we'd fucking stop before he'd cry once more at the ruins of Piter. This town still has historical markings about what side of the street to follow and where to hide from the WW2, and still...

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Maybe one day when elections are fair and queer people aren’t oppressed, but I won’t be holding my breath for that happening in my lifetime sadly.

Yeah, work wanted to send me, but I'm not white and also not ~~suicidal~~ window-proof.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Kazan is on my list of places I'd like to visit, lots of neat architecture there.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'd like to go to Kamchatka just so I can tell them that they're the most useless space in Risk.

Also, apparently there's lots of volcanoes and stuff.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Oh yes, the avoidance is entirely for governmental reasons. There is so much that would be interesting to see otherwise. Sadly it seems to be a repeating theme in Russian history where some change happens that seems like the ordinary people are finally starting to get some freedom and stability but then some authoritarian gets in power and cracks down on any dissenting views, even minor. I guess outsiders have to catch it during the right window of time.

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[–] r00ty@kbin.life 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Well. You'd need to avoid windows, tea, people with umbrellas (OK not directly Russian, but soviet era eastern europe), aeroplanes, cars. And if they really want to get you, they'll go old school and use a gun, or perhaps even a missile if you annoy the right people enough.

I'd just skip Moscow as a whole personally.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

Pff. Some people just can't hold their polonium.

[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Don’t forget underwear!

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 33 points 3 weeks ago

Some day a Russian public figure really will accidentally fall to their death out a window, but everyone will still think it's an assassination lmao

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Killed by the architects
...again

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago
[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck russia

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Was beginning to wonder if Russia still has windows. It’s been a while.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Man it's really easy for Russians to fall out of windows. Maybe they should put a warning sticker on them or something.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

This is not news, this is just Monday.

[–] raker@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

SWO - Special Windows Operations, a subdivision of FSB

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 10 points 3 weeks ago

Defenestration is Classic Russia.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

There should be some kind of safety code in Russia about their windows...

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Do they kill them, then throw them out the window? Is there a height requirement? Because if they just throw them out - there's a chance they'd survive.

.... and is it translation thing, because I feel like balconies are probably more common, but maybe they just say window still so we all know the government did it? Idk.

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

there's a chance they'd survive.

They'll probably shoot themselves in the back five times while falling from the ground floor window.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

thing is the article does not mention what floor.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It does, at least now. It was the 11th.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

The Moscow Defenestrator strikes again

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Again...LOL! Bodies of water, staircases, windows and tea are dangerous in Russia.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

Well that's certainly not subtle for a long series of assassinations but we aren't entirely out of the realm of possibility that Russia's 'drunkenly falling out of a window' problem is simply way worse than the western world's and if I recall correctly our's isn't great.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Rich people supporting fascists never think it’ll happen to them

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

The reason you know Hillary Clinton never killed anyone is because modern US republicans actually love murderers.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

More money for Pooty Poot

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