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[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 111 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Because the world shifted to the right a bunch more regarding sexual content… fucking websites now want you to show your ID in some states to view porn.

I think acclaimed director Paul Verhoeven put it best when he called our country a land full of gleefully violent prudes when people freaked out about his use of sexuality, nudity and people being comfortable naked around members of the opposite sex.

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When nudity/sexuality is shown artistically or actually has some depth or place in the story being told, I enjoy it, but 90% of that hollywood shit is hot garbage and I think a lot of folks feel the same.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

90% of that hollywood shit is hot garbage and I think a lot of folks feel the same.

And who HASN'T been in a situation, watching TV or movie with parents or other polite company, when a sex scene comes on (completely unnecessary to the plot), making everyone uncomfortable. I'd like to think that audience surveys have been taken into account to make Hollywood stop including sex scenes.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's only uncomfortable if you make it uncomfortable, but if you're all adults it doesn't have to be. Maybe it helps to grow up in a less puritanical country than the US though.

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 83 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What bothers me more is that violence gets a PG rating here, sex gets an X rating. How in the world is it more inappropriate for kids to see people naked than for them to watch someone hack someone else to death? The graphic violence should get a more restricted rating than on screen sex.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

When your nation always needs to be at war, it's helps to repress sexuality and normalize violence. This isn't so much a conspiracy theory, but an observation of an emergence behavior that reinforces itself.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 65 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

i think it was prevalent before the interwebs because there was largely few places to get porn, and throwing it in a movie meant more eyeballs.

as porn became immediately available in other forms (mostly the internet), the unnecessary scenes could be eliminated as a waste of time and a detraction from plots. they ceased being a reason to draw eyeballs.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 66 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

You telling me this wasn't relevant to the plot?

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[–] weker01@sh.itjust.works 62 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

That sex is even considered a vice on the same level as drugs and violence is fucking bonkers.

This graph alone gives legitimacy to this idea. Nudity and sex are completely normal (and necessary) things in life. That something that is needed for everyone reading this to exist being labeled as a vice like violence and drugs is actually disgusting IMHO.

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[–] weew@lemmy.ca 53 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

Sex scenes in movies are a combination of this weird shameful "I want to show I'm having sex but I can't actually show it" and "It's almost like porn if you removed all the porn."

You're really stuck in a pointless awkward middle ground that satisfies nobody. And 95% of the time it isn't even plot relevant so you're just wasting time. The decline basically just coincides with internet access to the masses.

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[–] ihatetheworld@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

My brain just go ..... when random awkward 30 second sex scene happens out of nowhere or they just start making out, kissing and moaning loudly then suddenly we are in the next scene and everything is back to normal. Why?

Unless the film is sexual in nature random full frontal nudity, stray tits, stray ass, visible privates always makes me so confused.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's purely in the film so producers can tell young actresses to get naked for the "job interview" cause it's part of the film.
The fact that those useless sex scenes aren't in films as often anymore is a good sign.

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[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Naked is okay. Sexual is unneeded. Normalize body.

I sound like some brainswashing machine from 80' movie xD Anyway, I am more rolling my eyes hard at current trend to insert romance everywhere than occassional, non-sexual nudity.

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago (27 children)

Okay, but what makes it “random” to you? It’s art. Nudity in art has been around since art began—took a few years off for puritanical reasons, sure, but we’re all human, we all share having a naked body in common. And sex is the most natural thing. So to include it in art is just as natural.

Our attitudes toward it have changed. Why, though? What makes you feel awkward about seeing sex or nudity

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[–] SiEstUbiEst@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Wish it was more sex and less violence

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We are all here because of sex. I think it's outrageous that violence is glorified when there isn't a single person here not made from sex. Ok maybe a few but it's a really small percentage.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 30 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I remember a bunch of years ago talking about This Film Is Not Yet Rated, and how I thought it was absurd a scene where someone's brains get shot out and they die is ok, but a non-graphic cunnilingus shot was unacceptable. The two people I was talking to, a woman older than me and someone my age, were both like "No that makes total sense. I'd watch a violent movie with my kid but not one with sex in it"

I was like, "You'd rather your kid run around fantasizing about murder than sex?" And they were like "yeah"

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[–] businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

as an asexual person i find other people's opinions on this interesting. the sex scenes do nothing for me and i'm usually just waiting for them to end but i understand my circumstances are not common. i can only assume that someone who is into sex gets something out of sex scenes, otherwise they wouldn't exist.

what i don't understand is the demonizing of sex scenes in movies. like does everyone only watch movies with their parents/kids? i don't like sex scenes due to my asexuality and i'm glad that there are few of them because this cultural shift benefits me specifically (who has never been in the target demographic) in a roundabout way. but i wouldn't say they are all gross/unnecessary/graphic/etc as a blanket statement like i see people in this thread and other places online say. art doesn't need to be for everyone.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

As a sexual person sex scenes do nothing to me either and feel like time lost for the actual plot.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Let's make a movie about the creator of the nuclear bomb! We can explore the moral implications, the political drama of communists in the USA during and after WW2, the creations of Los Alamos, the interesting science of...

Random corporate head: "Let's have a sex scene! That will make things interesting!"

[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now I am become death, the destroyer of...... Ooo... titties!

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[–] earth_walker@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's kind of a bummer as it's nice to have a more artistic representation of sex outside of porn which is more of a commodity. Movies can connect the sexy scenes to the non-sexy scenes which potentially makes them more powerful. Also, movies can tie moral value to sex which is interesting to explore.

I am in favor of sex in movies making a comeback, as long as it doesn't create problems for the actors.

[–] GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I think a lot of times the scenes are still done heavily through a male gaze. You'll see more frontal of her than you ever will of a man.

Sex in movies always felt awkward because usually it's a plot device to push the male character's story, a 'reward' for the male character... Or just one of many sexual assault scenes bestowed on nearly every female character ever because "DRAMA."

Not all sex scenes are like this, but a LOT of sex scenes are like this.

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[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Ok I understand the comments here where people are saying they dislike sex scenes that don't advance the plot. However there are certain movies where sex scenes are essential to the plot such as Boogie Nights. I can also think of examples like The Name Of The Rose where a sex scene is thematically improving the film (in my opinion).

Sex scenes in film/tv are hard to get right but I'd prefer if directors worked harder to capture/deploy them properly rather than a large facet of human experience disappearing during script interventions by producers and studios.

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[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Three grey value lines is stupid.

Don't be stupid.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago

It's considered a good design practice if you want to draw attention to a particular metric

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Incline if use of shades of greys in diagrams instead of easily identifiable colours: up 500%

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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Rise of sex in TV series 📈

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[–] SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

No wonder, American puritanism is at a record high.

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[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tv shows took the sex thing

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[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's due to easier accessibility to porn. It both reduces demand for the relatively timid sex scenes in films and also reduces their edginess/shock value.

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Jesus tap dancing christ.

WE HAVE PORN! INFINITE PORN!! 24/7 IN OUR POCKETS!!!

We used to find sex on film exciting, now if we get turned on we pause Netflix and hit the real stuff.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

It basically moved to TV instead. Wonder how that statistic compares if they're counted together.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

I'm guessing it's because the highest grossing films are now just slop trying to appeal to the widest demographic possible, so if they include sex, the are excluding families from seeing the film.

[–] shrodes@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder how much of this correlates with the rise of intimacy coordinators. I’m sure there are productions that think it’s not worth the investment so they just scrap the scene and have it take place off camera etc.

And perhaps a rise in actors not wanting to have their stuff on the internet forever now (even more so with the rise of AI training)

[–] Granite@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I wonder how much of this is because Disney owns everything.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/

Not just sex but the sexual tension/chemistry or whatever you wanna call it.

One example is Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst in Spider-man trilogy vs Tom Holland and Zendaya in MCU movies. The former couple dated briefly but broke up before the production of second movie. Second one's are dating for almost 5 years (officially). Yet the Raimi movies have this chemistry that MCU movies lack. The relationship feels like checklist.

Another is Eva Green vs Lea Seydoux in Bond movies.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sex scenes were usually forced in by people screaming sex sells. These days there are different ways to see breasts than going to a cinema.

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[–] oo1@lemmings.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"I've I've been waiting for the right time to bring this up, but I feel like we need to address the elephant in the room, no?" . . . "where's the dong?"

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Early 2000s were full of horny teen films.

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[–] TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All the colors in the fucking universe and they pick three shades of gray.

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[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Is the spike in the early 2000's from the cinematic masterpiece The Room? Three sex scenes in the span of like 15 minutes, ooh la la.

Seriously though, as much of a horndog I can be, I like the decline of random sex scenes in movies. Very rarely added anything to the story for me. I'm not a fan of violence, but fortunately it's not too hard to avoid.

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[–] Camzing@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Go drugs! You got this!

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago

The kids who watched Titanic with their parents are growing up and making movies now

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

I wanna see this extended back to at least 1980, which was around the peak for nudity and sex scenes in film; after porn was legalized but before internet porn.

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