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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's funny is that antimaskers still blat on about how they won't wear a face diaper for anything or anyone, two years after such requirements ended. These people just need negative attention like tantruming toddlers.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago

And then some of the same people will wear actual diapers in public while holding signs proclaiming that "real men wear diapers". Can't make that shit up.

[–] centipede_powder@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (4 children)

There are "Preppers" and there are people who actually prepare for when things go wrong. Preppers seem to me like someone who watched a few too many survivor man and YouTube clips and decided to make a personality out of it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Right. "Prepper" vs. "being prepared." The former is almost like a subculture.

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[–] quixotic120@lemmy.world 169 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There’s a Simpson’s episode about preppers where they assume the big bad thing happens and fuck off to their bunkers, stuff happens, and they eventually come back to town. When they come back everyone is happy and doing fine and Marge says something like “things were okay after the first few hours. We all worked together and made it work. It was like all the mean, angry, and resentful parts of the town had just disappeared!”

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

preppers don't want to be dependent on society because they don't like society, but they're not bright enough to realize they will always be dependent on society

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[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 34 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Real peppers never stop eating beans. You buy new and eat the old ones. Oh and real peppers buy a truck they can repair themselves, not a 2024 Ram Clownsmobile.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Real peppers never stop eating beans.

Remind me not to stay in one of their enclosed bunkers with them for an extended period of time.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The more you eat beans and fiber, the better your digestive system becomes at digesting them.

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[–] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (4 children)

All the solar panels, ARs, and "Patriot" food kits won't prep them for when the pollinators die off.

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[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 106 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Saw an episode of doomsday preppers years ago. These dudes had a whole property out in Oregon or Washington state designed to endure a potential onslaught of zombies.

They had to quickly evacute their property and leave all their fancy stuff, because of a very real forest fire that came to visit, for which they were entirely unprepared.

[–] IonAddis@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

I've been finding the crazy building in arid environments odd, because even aside from forest fires, if your water supply dries up, you're going to have to uproot and move to a state or location with a reliable water source. And you'll be part of a big mass of climate migrants at that point.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Zombies". If you let them talk, it'll be pretty obvious that they're looking for a legal loophole to kill somebody. "Zombies" just means city people, which just means black people. They'll kill a white guy if that's what their lifelong dream comes to, but they'd feel bad about it later.

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[–] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 115 points 3 days ago (3 children)

As a guy who built shit for preppers (because some of them are stupid as fuck and have gobs of money from some shady bs) this is spot on.

Preppers are fucking losers. The cunts who want WW3 deserve no love.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago (6 children)

But have you considered that going to therapy and dealing with their intense insecurity is scary?

Bros will have nuclear armegeddon before seeing a social worker and it shows.

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[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

I felt silly for buying a 63 gallon, foldable/portable water tank for my small farm because the vast majority of the ones I looked at were marketed towards preppers.

I just want my animals to have water in case the power goes out for a few days.

But the way things like that are marketed makes it sound like your the smartest, bestest, most prepared person to ever walk this earth. I don't need you to stroke my ego, just sell a foldable water tank with no leaks please.

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Preppers: I'm ready for anything; economic collapse, zombies, apocalypse, sinkholes, foreign invasion, aliens...anything!

[covid-19 hits]

Preppers: fuck this i'm not wearing a mask! it's all a hoax!

Also preppers: I need to go to the store and buy 27 cases of toilet paper!

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Pretty much, just a power fantasy disguised as being prepared

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 16 points 3 days ago

You lost them at considerate.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

COVID didn't have a solution based around people being the main character.

Unless you wanted to cause trouble. Then you could be the main character.

[–] ZeroCool 97 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Imagine living such a privileged life that the closest you've ever come to feeling oppressed was when you had to wear a mask to pick up dino nuggets at Walmart. Preppers have always been clowns, but COVID definitely ruined what little facade there ever actually was about the "movement" being anything other than a masturbatory LARP.

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nothing wrong in a good LARP, or masturbation for that matter. The problem with preppers is everything else about them.

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (18 children)

I'm a person that most people would consider a prepper. What am I prepping for? Unemployment. Being able to survive with as few possible inputs as possible.

I'm a hard core skeptical nerd that doesn't believe a single conspiracy theory. I'm like an anti doomsday prepper. Making life easier even if things don't go bad.

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[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 67 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm in the "be prepared" group where we usually have a couple weeks of food and water around. We also have two forms of heat for when the power goes out.

Will we survive WW3 on this? No, but it has been very helpful after big winter storms that took out the city power.

Having some supplies to use in the short term is good for everyone. Being ready to go out to help neighbors and get the community back on its feet is how we get through to the next good times.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I wouldn't call that being a prepper. That's just sensible preparation for something like a natural disaster. Preppers think they'll survive whatever their conception of "the big one" is.

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I'm neither American nor a native English speaker so take it with a grain of salt.

That's where I'd put the line between a regular prepper and a doomsday prepper.

Not to forget the very elusive Sergent Prepper.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So… Yeah, doomsday preppers definitely showed their true colors.

But I think we also saw that there’s a lot of merit to being a reasonable prepper.

I’m lucky to have a reasonable prepper in my friend group. Because of their insistence, I had masks, a full tank of gas, and a comfortably-stocked pantry way ahead of time so I wasn’t yet another person adding stress to a lean/just-in-time/low-margin distribution system that can’t handle even minor hiccups.

Much like the goal of lockdowns was not to completely stop the spread but just slow it so our healthcare system could handle it, the goal of prepping should be to avoid causing shortages when our productive capacity is lowered.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Drag thinks prepping is about learning useful skills and building community. A prepper should know how to sew, how to garden, how to repair and operate a radio, how to make friends, how to organise labour, and first aid.

Drag wants to see a zombie show about a grandma who looks after her community, resolves interpersonal disputes, fixes clothes, and looks after the little ones. Drag thinks grandmas are the demographic best prepared for an apocalypse.

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[–] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

my dads a mild prepper and had his 'told you so' moment when he brought up 2 boxes of n95 masks. he donated a box to hospital and the other box got the family through the worst months

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[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Hair cuts of all things made people lose their god damn minds. That was wild

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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

I don't consider myself a prepper, but I do prepare for unlikely scenarios with highly negative outcomes. In terms of expected value vs. investment, I think having a "go" or "get home" bag is cheap and useful. I have two weeks of food and water supplies to shelter in place. I have face masks and hazmat suits (they came vacuum sealed so they just sit in the bottom of the shelter in place Tupperware bin). A solar generator and battery. A few medkits and some basic medicines including prescription antibiotics. And then my camping/hiking stuff: so more mres, water purification, water filter, fire kit etc.

All in all, it didn't cost much, it doesn't take up much room, and it's good to have. I'm not necessarily worried about a revolution so much as, in order if likelihood: a bad storm, electrical grid issues, natural disaster, or mild civil unrest. All of which I've been through before, so I guess they're not exactly black swan events. I wouldn't really call those "SHTF" events, since, again, I've experienced each one and yet things are now fine.

What I consider "preppers" are thinking about (and seemingly hoping for) civilizational collapse.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 7 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Make sure the antibiotics don't expire. Most of them just become useless when they expire, but Tetracycline becomes poisonous when it expires. Also, not all antibiotics are good for all infections, so make sure the ones you have are useful for the kinds of infections you anticipate.

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[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 43 points 3 days ago (6 children)

What a lot of right wing preppers and a lot of 'militia' guys (the tacticool heavy infantry kind) seem to completely lack is the willingness to be inconvenienced at all.

They buy or craft whatever stuff seems cool to them (some of which sure can actually be quite useful), train some skills they find fun to do (usually shooting/hunting) but most seem to ignore anything they don't like, find difficult or uninteresting to do (such as keeping reasonably fit). It also usually includes being willing to take orders or cooperate.

The lack of some skills/equipment/preparation could be overcome but not with the mentality that lead to it on the first place.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The being cooperative thing is the key.

Id be willing to bet my left testicle those that survive an apocalypse are those who work together to grow food, build shelter, etc. and not the goobers who lock themselves in a crate with some beans.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I know a guy who owns a retired nuclear missile silo that he made into a doomsday bunker/business. The top several floors or so with the old control rooms and stuff has been converted into his bunker, but most of the main silo is flooded with water, so it's a scuba diving attraction.

Anyway: when Covid came his bunker and years of food and fuel, so he and the wife went out there and used it for their lockdown. I'm happy for him that he got to use it.

They took out the old control rooms and completely remodeled the inside into a pretty comfy house. It's just underground and has 3-ton blast doors.

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[–] AAA@feddit.org 35 points 3 days ago

I'm proud that in that time of crisis I was strong and served my country and fellow citizens, simply by staying home and not bothering anyone.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you just went hunting, fishing, and living in the woods COVID wouldn't be a problem for you though.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Tell that to all the gay frogs I heard coughing in the woods last night

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

They weren't ready for a SHTF scenario where survival means personal hygiene.

Same people who won't get a vaccination are the same ones who take huge dumps and don't wash their hands. Venn diagram is a circle.

[–] the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (17 children)

The irony in the "prepping" movement these days is that it was never intended to be this thing about having an inexhaustible supply of resources just for you and your family (if you're still on speaking terms with them) to live off of when the nukes fall.

It's not about sitting in your attic and picking off starving people who are looking for a meal while you sit on a cache of food and ammunition.

It's supposed to be about being a useful person in your community who can help each other weather the worst in life. You will get much further in a disaster if you have skills than if you have stuff. You might have an entire Home Depot to yourself, but it's far too late to learn carpentry when the rain starts to fall.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Or ever bother learning something to benefit society now and in the case of a rebuild. Great, you have food, shelter and guns. Do you know how to dress wounds? Do you know how to build a generator? Fuck electricity actually- do you know how to build a steam engine? Wait before we can get here, do you know how to make steel? Cast iron? There should be plenty of it after an apocalypse. Wind copper?

What about welding? Not the kind you need modern tools for, you won't have those. Do you know basic chemistry to get what you need to restart society? No? Well good luck.

Turns out survival in an apocalypse isn't all that difficult if you payed attention to anything in school. It pisses me off people get bent out of shape about "useful practice skills like doing taxes aren't being taught."

I can remember a ton of important ass survival shit from school. Crop rotation! Agricultural practices from thousands of years ago! Steam power, basic electricity, Simple chemistry. Oh, and Math! How many Preppers can't do basic fucking math that would save them?

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Me, buying some extra rice, pasta and salt, watching my neighbor buying large game butchering knife kit (we live in the suburbs)

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[–] Disgracefulone@discuss.online 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So if a zombie outbreak occurred these people would fuck us even worse

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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not just listening to scientists. Listening to nerds.

[–] yemmly@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I don’t think preppers are a monolith. There are people from different backgrounds, different politics, different concerns, and different methods (and degrees) of preparedness. People who make it about hoarding goods and resources are probably just doing it wrong.

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