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[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

I haven't read a whole lot, but so far: Madame Bovary. We had to read it in high school, because it was culturally significant and because it caused a large amount of controversy when it came out due to its subject matter. When I was reading it though, it felt like I was reading a literary version of every TV soap opera ever. It was a slog to get through and I was bored and annoyed throughout.

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The bible. Inconsistent, unethical, and immoral.

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[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I don't know if this counts, but when I was about 13I was very excited to find an enormous book in my favorite genre at the time, Battlefield Earth by L. Ron Hubbard.

It was the first book I ever put down in disgust without finishing. In the almost half-century since then, there are under a dozen that I haven't finished. Shows you just how bad it is.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

As a young teen scifi nerd I enjoyed the world, and tech he built in that book. I read the 600+ pages pretty quick. I think I was too young to critique it as a literary work.
The movie was absolute garbage.

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Probably Don Quixote. It started off really well, but it devolved towards the end into this long-unending self-referential rant full of name-drops and exposition, and I could barely follow any of it and pushing through that was a huge chore.

I later learned I had read a bad translation, and that there is one good translation out there I should try, but the whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth and I don't want to go anywhere near that book again.

[–] Waldowal@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The first 5 or so of Trump's books. No meaningful lessons in business to be had. Just him bragging about people he knew, people he'd screwed over, how good he thought he was at pretty much everything. How he got back at anyone who crossed him. Insufferable. I knew he was one of the worst people ever before he even mentioned getting into politics.

And in those 5 books, he probably name-dropped every New York socialite he ever met. It's consistent with his whole image of self-worth and needing to look and feel important. You know who he didn't mention? Someone we've seen him with in several photos? Who he definitely would have mentioned if there wasn't a reason not to? Jeffrey Epstein.

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[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] Hegar@fedia.io 44 points 1 day ago

When I was an undergraduate, a friend of mine wrote a book review of the bible for the student newspaper.

The opening sentence was: "Not since Naked Lunch has such a boring book been saved by the constant barrage of sadomasochistic homosexual pornography."

[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Yep. Bible. Pretentious, boring and way too much first - person stuff.

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I don't even remember the title, but it was written by Clive Cussler.

It was the dullest, most stereotypical adventure book with the bog standard protagonist and plot, with no interesting twist or unexpected event at all.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the Piers Anthony novelization of the movie Total Recall. it's very bad!

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I haven't read that, but his original novel Firefly is the only book I ever threw away instead of adding it to my collection shelves or trading it back to the used book store. It's horrifically gross. One of the main characters is shown in a flashback enthusiastically participating in her rape as a five year old. Anthony is a problematic writer already, but this was way worse than I could have guessed.

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[–] Murdified@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Left Behind. I'm probably a huge idiot for not realizing for the entire thing without knowing before hand what the context was, but I read it with the idea that it was some kind of apocalyptic sci-fi, and then only in the very last few pages of the book did it finally hit me in the face that it was religious doomsday bullshit. I do have to compliment it for the storytelling and world setting, but holy shit was I disappointed with the end direction 🀦

[–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I didn't finish the last couple books, but I did enjoy it fully knowing the subject matter was about Revelations. I mostly read it as a kid and re-read for a bit as an adult. I did not grow up in a religious household. There was a point though where the books went a little too off the rails, and I gave up.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

You should see the movie. It stars nic cage and he did it as a favor to a friend. It's fucking awful. funny thing though, my story is identical to yours. Had no idea until it was too late lol.

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Canonical answer is The Homecoming Saga by Orson Scott Card, since it turns out that if the good guys have a mind controlling god computer that's always right on their side it gets really hard to have meaningful conflict.

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[–] kubok@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

I am not sure about 'ever' (I am old and have been reading for over 4 decades now), but a book I hate-read recently was Foucault's pendulum by Umberto Eco. It is meant to be a satire on conspiracy theories and as such it is still a relevant book after 35 years or so. However, the point of satire is to get to the point eventually, preferably within 500 pages. It was pompously written and sometimes felt like a showcase of 'look how much I know!'.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

I was far too young to read Animal Farm. I thought it was going to be like Charlotte's Web. I did not have any of the historical or political context for the metaphor. It just made me angry.

[–] Thavron@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I haven't read the entire book, but I've read like 10 pages of Fifty Shades of Grey when my then-girlfriend was reading it. Besides the story and subject matter, the writing itself is horrible.

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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I was assigned Ethan Frome in a high school lit class and to this day I think it is one of the worst books to assign to emotional, angsty, experience-limited teens.

I also don't understand why Romeo and Juliet is the go-to Shakespeare work that we default to.

How do we handle complex romantic relationships? Suicide / attempted suicide, of course! Just what every teen needs to hear /s

[–] mwproductions@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I completely agree about Ethan Frome, but perhaps you'll like this video, which cracked me the hell up.

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Possibly because Romeo and Juliet were stupid teenagers and and part of the tragedy is about the impulsiveness of youth. A good teacher can sometimes get that across, but I suspect it doesn't really sink in. And if they didn't teach it with A Midsummer Night's Dream it's also a missed opportunity - Romeo and Juliet is satirized during the Pyramus and Thisby play-in-a-play.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The Silmarillion.
Probably the only book I excitedly pushed myself to read, but just couldn't.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

That was actually my favorite Tolkien book. He was a terrible fiction writer with an excellent story to tell... but when he was writing non-fiction style in the Silmarillion he was really in his element... and/or the posthumous editing was top notch.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Stephen King's It

Great story, but the writing was exceedingly dull, apart from the first chapter. I even tried getting through it via audiobook and still only made it halfway through. It's just a chore.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't get Stephen King. I've never read a thing by him that I thought warranted the accolades.

I like some of the films based on his books, but those are all punched up quite a bit.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No, King writes well. It's very much from the heart and you can relate to the emotions he lays down effortlessly on every page. I think his strength is creating mysteries, and his weakness is over-explaining said mysteries.

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[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

Wizard’s First Rule by Terry ~~Brooks~~Goodkind. I suffered through the whole thing because I was young enough that I thought that’s what you should do when you’ve started a book, but I was also old enough to know that it was very bad. I’ve heard many people say they read it as teens and loved it, but I assure you, it does not hold up.

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I read a bunch of those books because my roommate was in love with them. It established an idea of a writing flaw in my mind that I called "The Heirachy of Cool". Basically the guy practically has an established character list of who is the coolest. Whichever character in any given scene is at the top of the hierarchy is mythically awesome. They have their shit together, they are functionally correct in their reasoning, they lead armies, they pull off grand maneuvers, they escape danger whatever...

But anyone below them in the Heirachy turn into complete morons who serve as foils to make the people above them seem more awesome whenever they share page time together. These characters seem to have accute amnesia about stuff that canonically happened very recently (in previous books) so they can complicate things for the hierarchy above, they usually make poor decisions due to crisises of faith in people above them in the hierarchy... But because that hierarchy is infallible it's predictable. Less cool never is proven right over more cool.

... Until that same character is suddenly alone and they go from being mid of the hierarchy to the top and all of a sudden they have iron wills and super competence...

Once I caught onto that pattern it became intolerable to continue.

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[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t know if it’s the absolute worst I ever read but the parts I read were pretty bad. At some point I was like β€œWhat kinda Ayn Rand bullshit is this?” and quit reading. It turns out that he was a Ayn Rand make-super-improbable-and-convoluted-examples-in-my-fictional-fantasy-world-to-justify-terrible-political-views school of writing type guy.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 21 hours ago

I've read so many it's hard to say but recently the Star Wars book about Phasma stands out (most of the books since Disney took over are not great). Also a series someone on Reddit recommended that turned out to be basically a guy writing down a game of Stellaris. I don't remember the name of it but it was awful.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can't really remember of all time, but recently I started reading Dune: Messiah, and I had to stop reading it was so bad. I might be in the minority but the tonal shifts, changes in character attitudes, and jumping right into these assassination plots, all of it just came out weird and misplaced. Definitely did not slap with even 1/4th the power of Dune.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Herbert didn't want to continue Dune and was pressured to write a follow up. It was an era when most science fiction was still published in periodicals. The first half of Messiah are the results that were then compiled into the start. It is like a really shitty draft. Everyone experiences the same thing. I put it down for quite a while too. If you can make it to the second half, it will become one you can't put down, like the first. It does setup well for what is to come. After I got back into Messiah, I read all the way to the end of the entire series, even the Brian Herbert/Kevin Anderson stuff. Those last two are not like Frank's writings, but are their own thing and still more readable than the first half of Messiah. IMO the first half of Messiah is a great example of what happens when Art takes a back seat to an anxious banking type mentality. Bankers make terrible artists and advisors.

GEoD is IMO the best book in the series as it eviscerates many cultural norms and deep assumptions like fascist altruism, eternal boredom, the coexistence of misogyny and feminism, manipulation that is both brutal and kind, and if an alien can be human. It even infers the question of potential delusional prescience in my opinion. It will make you think about the motivation of leaders and what you may endure because of their vision of a future.

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[–] ThatsMrCharlieToYou@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The worst book I've ever read has to be 1984. The book is excellent, but did not do good things for me so it goes down as the worst

[–] Railison@aussie.zone 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you ever contrast it with Brave New World? In many ways the latter is more disturbing since the masses are kept busy with frivolity to question their world.

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[–] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Alchemist and Song of Achilles are some popular books that I thought were mediocre. Probably not the worst book I've ever read though.

That probably goes to Sean Hannity's Conservative Victory that my grandma gave me when I was 12.

True slop. Fuck Sean Hannity.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I enjoyed The Alchemist and The Zahir at the time, but in hindsight I think The Zahir was an elaborate cuckold fantasy. I think if I reread it I'd remember the rest of it but that's what it feels like thinking back over a decade later.

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