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[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 89 points 2 months ago (2 children)

AI can make porn. It's not going anywhere.

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He who holds the porn holds the power

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 months ago

Well, he holds something, anyway.

[–] GreeNRG 29 points 2 months ago

Watching cryptobros lose their life savings was my kink.

[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 76 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I have to say, the technology behind cryptocurrencies is brilliant, but unfortunately, it got misused and got ironically centralised.
NFTs are stupid.
Now with hype train dying, we could see some real use of AI.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 2 months ago (7 children)

You see, no one actually wants a digital currency. There have been several (nano was my favorite) that functioned especially well as a currency, because it used very little compute power to perform or verify transactions.

But a currency is stable. Which means you don't magically make money by holding or trading it. So it doesn't get attention, and therefore doesn't get widely adopted.

Everyone likes Bitcoin because it's speculative digital gold.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (6 children)

There are plenty of people who want a digital equivalent to cash from a privacy perspective.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 2 months ago

It'd be nice to have a singular system for payment around the world. I work on e-commerce sites that take payment in many different countries, and some of those payment providers are better designed than others.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

AI is useful, you just have to use it right. Most "titans of business" think it's a replacement for humans. It's infinitely obnoxious correcting them in a business setting.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

NFTs of art was really not supposed to be anything more than a proof of concept. I think the original purpose of NFTs was to be able to have an NFT representing title to land or something that you could then barter or sell on the blockchain.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago (6 children)

NFTs were created in a code jam and had no intents to become title transfer tools.

It was and always be limited by the amount of data the NFT can contain. They went with URLs because they are small enough to fit. An actual land deed title document? Too big to fit into an NFT. Simply not enough bytes to go around.

This was the strict limitation from the very beginning. The only thing an NFT actually verifies "ownership" of is a URL.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

While the NFT can't contain the entire title document, it can contain the hash of the title document, and then the title document is simply recorded elsewhere on-chain.

[–] m88youngling 8 points 2 months ago

I agree with this. A title to land ownership is in itself just a piece of paper, it's not the land you're owning. It's effectively serving the same purpose as the hash idea you're suggesting

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 65 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What’s actually going to kill LLMs is when the sweet VC money runs out and the vendors have to start charging what it actually costs to run.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You can run it on your own machine. It won't work on a phone right now, but I guarantee chip manufacturers are working on a custom SOC right now which will be able to run a rudimentary local model.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago

You can already run 3B llms on cheap phones using MLCChat, it's just hella slow

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Both apple and Google have integrated machine learning optimisations, specifically for running ML algorithms, into their processors.

As long as you have something optimized to run the model, it will work fairly well.

They don't want to have independent ML chips, they want it baked into every processor.

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[–] gnarly@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This isn't the case. Midjourney doesn't receive any VC money since it has no investors and this ignores genned imagery made locally off your own rig.

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[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 50 points 2 months ago (18 children)

NFTs and crypto were dubious as to the value they provided

LLMs on the other hand provide very tangible, immediate value to a large number of people

Also they allow companies to save a ton of money on support at the expense of the user experience so of course it's here to stay

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's still overhyped and being shoved into every app, service and system that exists whether it adds value or not.

Its definitely not going away, there's some real value to LLM/AI (much more than crypto anyway) but make no mistake there's going to be a significant correction where the bubble bursts and AI becomes right sized.

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[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hope this is the case, but I don't really think so. I got a call Thursday from a friend and he told me he and his whole department were losing their jobs. He was pretty upset about it. Apparently management decided they could be replaced with AI.

He and his team manage a medium sized in-house developed management application. It's a combination of stock management, product management and sales tools. Because the products their company sells are pretty unique, they never found a good off the shelf application to do everything they wanted. So they developed their own and connected it to the off the shelf applications they have for ERP and CRM. Pretty slick and his team and him are praised across the company.

Apparently the IT manager had gotten a very impressive demo for Microsoft Power BI with AI integration. Using AI tools to realtime develop an application. He was so impressed he decided they were going to fire the in-house team and have an external company use the AI to develop a replacement tool. The external company said they could use very cheap people as the AI would do basically all the work. And it would be done before the notice on the current team ran out (2 months).

He called me kinda in shock about the whole thing. Like that's not realistic right? That's not something Power BI can do? With or without AI? And even with AI it can't do that on such short notice? I told him he was right, that's not how anything works and the IT manager got duped. Either way, they are out on their ass. Now they are very skilled people and will probably find new jobs right away, but it still sucks ass. AI sucks!

[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

I recall the AI insights feature years ago being a mess, flagged patterns across dimensions, unrelated trends etc, useless noise to slog through, if not outright dangerous if people just assume everything is actionable, maybe it's gotten better but it's going to rely heavily on data quality, good governance, the model itself.

Straight up, this is not a good use case for Power BI, tabular is really good at aggregates and analytics, I'd not use it for management like this, especially if there's already an existing application, as an enhancement though yeah go ahead, but not a full on replacement.

I'd be willing to bet this won't be done in 2 months and certainly not to budget, to do properly you need to understand business context, data model etc. I'm guaranteeing this is going to be sludge with half-baked power apps, people will complain about the change. Shit the change management for end users will take more than 2 months, took us years to get people to switch off of a barely maintained shift summary report to a Power BI version and that actually was a good use of the tool.

This project gives me nightmares and I'm not even working on it.

[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (4 children)

hey, I still use XMR to buy my hrt

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

You're extrapolating from one data point, nfts are crypto

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

Everyone's trying to recapture the dotcom bubble; but they don't realize tech is gonna need considerably more money than they already have to do something that crazy again. Furthermore, when it comes to AI specifically, if you give them the money they need to actually achieve AGI, then there's a very real chance your investments will be worthless the moment they succeed.

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[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago

I really hope so, but AI has already left the techbro area, it's very mainstream now

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

None of those things are dead though?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (9 children)
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[–] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

go mention crypto or NFTs to a person on the street and i guarantee you will be laughed at immediately

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think AI has some specific uses that it would be great at, but it’s getting shoved into places it doesn’t belong. (Kind of like how everything had touch buttons for a while.)

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

AI images and music aren't going anywhere. Dipshits insisting it's the future! so they can get rich will move on to the next grift... but unlike NFTs, there's a thing, here. Any idiot can type in a concept and have their computer visually represent it. It's in fucking Photoshop already. This is going to be a technology that continues to exist, and gradually improves, at least to the point of being really goddamn difficult to spot.

And at some point even the loudest haters will look back and go, wow, how'd we ever do stuff without this? Not the LLM shit - that's gonna stay dodgy. Decent enough if you want a Shel Silverstein poem about current events, but it's never gonna discern truth from fiction.

What's gonna quietly change media forever is every idiot with a nice GPU becoming competitive with medium-level Blender wizards. Your student film needs this sliding patio door to become an airlock? Done. You want your hand-drawn storyboards to become a traditional cartoon? Harder, but shockingly doable. Your actual medium-level Blender work lacks a certain verisimilitude? The idiot robot has you covered, somehow.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I agree with most of what you said, except this:

And at some point even the loudest haters will look back and go, wow, how’d we ever do stuff without this?

The haters are not going to do that, because the AI's capability is generally not the thing that people are hating on.

Here are some of the things people dislike about AI generated content:

  • It is trained with the work of people, without compensation or consent. Essentially this means it is stealing other people's work for and using it to increase the profits of big corporations.
  • It is used as an excuse for further data harvesting. ("To use our amazing AI services, you need to send your data to our servers for processing...")
  • It has massive computational cost, which means large environmental costs. The cost is largely hidden, because the computation are done somewhere else.
  • It devalues human effort. Since the AI can generate some fairly good output very easily, it discourages people from learning basic skills. i.e. instead of trying to draw or create something themselves, and thus improving a person's own skill, its fair faster and easier to make the AI do it. In the short term this doesn't matter, but in the long term it may result in deskilling the very people who the AI is meant to be learning from.
  • Since it is very easy to create, there is a flood of AI created content now on the internet. This huge amount of added content means it is now harder to find non-AI content than it use to be.
  • There are obvious problems with impersonation, spam, scams, etc. being made faster and easier with AI.
  • ...

You get the idea. My point is that "it's not useful" isn't really one of the main complaints. Rather, people hope that it isn't useful, because they don't want it to become too entrenched.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

I hope this is gonna happen but the problem is ai is actually powerful. The best result is if its just too expensive to make good enough to use for scary things.

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